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Old 12-17-2023, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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The urban area boundary is supposed to take in all of the territory that is contiguously developed at urban densities, expressed in terms of a threshold number of dwelling units per square mile IIRC. The OMB doesn't always get the boundaries right — were you to look at the Kansas City UA, you would note that urban Lee's Summit, which borders it directly, is not included in it — but it's as good as we can get in most cases.

I disagree with your assumption here. Since the urban area includes core city and suburbs, any territory that is contiguous to the existing UA and densely developed enough belongs, regardless of its demographics. It's the whole, not the sum of the parts, that are being measured here. And FWIW, Malvern isn't all that different demographically or socioeconomically from the rest of the Main Line to its east, so why should it be excluded? OTOH, Doylestowm may actually not be part of the Philadelphia UA, for I believe that not all of the territory between it and Lansdale or Willow Grove is built to a sufficiently high density. (CensusReporter.org is having some Issues, so I can't check to see if my belief is correct.)
Census Reporter is working again now, so I did check. Doylestown is indeed in the urbanized area, with tentacles stretching from the surrounding township to New Hope and Lambertville to the northeast and to Dublin and Plumsteadville in the north.

But there is also a Lee's Summit-like anomaly in our region: Pottstown is its own separate UA, even though it directly abuts part of the Philadelphia UA. And if that's the case, why doesn't Wilmington get the same consideration?
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Old 12-19-2023, 11:30 PM
 
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I don't look at Detroit or Minneapolis as more or less nationally diverse than the other personally. The data indicates they are pretty similar. Both are definitely underrated in terms of diversity. I personally get very defensive about Detroit sometimes because that is our homeland away from home (I am Lebanese). My entire family moved from California, Nevada, and Texas to the Detroit area for that reason. Im the only one left in not there!

In the case of Minneapolis, my wife's family is from Thailand and I give my father in law a hard time because he has family there. Ill say things like "I bet you want to move to Minnesota with all your people" and he say "NO! That is Hmong City. Those are not my people".

But in all seriousness if we break down the Arab diversity in Detroit, it is mostly Yemeni, Iraqi, and Lebanese. They are extremely different culturally. If you go to Dearborn for example, its Lebanese. Women can dress as they please, no one gives the side eye to anyone else, and its very welcoming. If you go to Hamtramck, that is Yemeni and Bangladeshi. My mother has personally gotten harassed for going out in workout clothes and not being covered. Then you have the Iraqis in Sterling Heights and they are like the Lebanese. Pretty laid back. These cultures are as different as Ethiopians and Laotians!

They are Chaldeans/Assyrians in Sterling Heights. They don’t identify as Iraqis.
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Old 12-22-2023, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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They are Chaldeans/Assyrians in Sterling Heights. They don’t identify as Iraqis.
That is a very good point.
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Old 12-23-2023, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Here is some ancestry data. Ill start with Hispanic ancestries on this post and Ill move on to others later. Again this is by Urban Area. For Mexicans, all over 50,000 listed. For Puerto Ricans, all over 20,000. The rest, all over 10,000. The numbers next to the nationalities are the total in the US.

Mexican - 37,145,956
Los Angeles: 4,354,726
Houston: 1,644,635
Chicago: 1,597,385
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,484,635
Riverside/San Bernardino: 1,157,376
San Antonio: 1,007,259
Phoenix: 979,878
San Diego: 923,883
McAllen: 686,181
El Paso: 674,939
New York City: 569,486
Las Vegas: 520,064
Denver: 504,893
Austin: 431,441
San Francisco/Oakland: 485,043
Sacramento: 339,875
San Jose: 336,577
Fresno: 314,316
Tucson: 311,403
Atlanta: 304,502
Bakersfield: 282,130
Seattle/Tacoma: 260,582
Albuquerque: 229,098
Laredo: 227,148
Portland: 210,905
Brownsville: 194,829
Stockton: 174,751
Indo/Palm Desert/Palm Springs: 165,931
Modesto: 163,201
Salt Lake City: 157,339
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 146,045
Palmdale/Lancaster: 141,979
Oklahoma City: 134,881
Kansas City: 134,780
Detroit: 126,279
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 122,972
Washington DC: 121,373
Philadelphia: 109,671
Tampa: 96,552
Harlingen: 96,281
Odessa: 87,548
Indianapolis: 85,964
Lubbock: 83,408
Merced: 83,330
Colorado Spring: 73,119
Charlotte: 69,360
Midland: 62,330
Amarillo: 60,806
Waco: 58,719
Fayetteville/Bentonville, AR: 54,719
Orlando: 53,810
Nashville: 52,586

Puerto Rican - 5,902,042
New York City: 1,141,329
Philadelphia: 263,636
Orlando: 236,001
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 230,979
Chicago: 199,684
Tampa: 175,380
Boston: 131,170
Hartford: 122,697
Springfield, MA: 101,425
Atlanta: 61,852
Washington DC: 60,269
Providence: 56,431
Cleveland: 56,092
Los Angeles: 55,172
Bridgeport, CT: 52,255
Houston: 49,032
Dallas/Fort Worth: 48,172
Jacksonville: 43,661
San Antonio: 35,350
Virginia Beach: 33,031
Jacksonville: 31,364
Phoenix: 29,692
San Diego: 26,030
Las Vegas: 26,408
Seattle/Tacoma: 23,142
Baltimore: 22,965
San Francisco: 22,122
Detroit: 22,074
Austin: 20,352

El Salvadoran - 2,389,469
Los Angeles: 450,261
Washington DC: 302,452
New York City: 246,627
Houston: 209,332
Dallas/Fort Worth: 93,789
San Francisco: 77,430
Boston: 61,770
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 46,109
Riverside/San Bernardino: 40,530
Las Vegas: 33,458
Atlanta: 31,561
Baltimore: 28,955
Palmdale/Lancaster: 20,379
Charlotte: 17,993
Chicago: 17,506
Fayetteville/Bentonville, AR: 17,118
Seattle/Tacoma: 15,674
San Jose: 14,583
Philadelphia: 14,127
Phoenix: 13,540
Richmond: 12,480
Sacramento: 11,750
Austin: 10,846
Denver: 10,734

Cuban - 2,405,080
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 1,128,007
New York City: 145,623
Tampa: 134,712
Orlando: 50,756
Los Angeles: 46,462
Houston: 46,288
Cape Coral/Fort Myers: 45,008
Las Vegas: 35,415
Louisville: 24,560
Chicago: 24,298
Dallas/Fort Worth: 21,549
Atlanta: 20,848
Jacksonville: 18,795
Philadelphia: 16,684
Washington DC: 15,664
Phoenix: 13,098
Austin: 11,472
Boston: 11,134

Dominican - 2,267,142
New York City: 1,176,903
Boston: 149,870
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 118,970
Philadelphia: 77,812
Providence: 60,676
Orlando: 37,125
Tampa: 31,950
Washington DC: 26,943
Atlanta: 19,780
Hartford: 11,250
Charlotte: 11,071
Houston: 10,301

Guatemalan - 1,669,094
Los Angeles: 291,288
New York City: 126,066
Washington DC: 81,403
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 76,724
Houston: 71,826
San Francisco: 48,953
Boston: 42,049
Chicago: 39,172
Atlanta: 37,556
Providence: 29,292
Riverside/San Bernardino: 28,180
Dallas/Fort Worth: 28,092
Philadelphia: 20,127
Bridgeport: 19,282
Phoenix: 17,985
Las Vegas: 16,472
Orlando: 12,735
Cincinnati: 12,331
San Diego: 11,882
Baltimore: 10,334
Oklahoma City: 10,191

Colombian - 1,357,708
New York City: 291,202
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 260,569
Houston: 46,248
Los Angeles: 40,946
Orlando: 40,310
Tampa: 37,017
Boston: 34,943
Washington DC: 31,207
Atlanta: 27,938
Chicago: 25,241
Philadelphia: 20,943
Bridgeport: 16,246
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,384
Providence: 11,707

Honduran - 1,068,265
New York City: 123,122
Houston: 105,543
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 99,053
Los Angeles: 59,233
Washington DC: 57,518
Dallas/Fort Worth: 38,392
New Orleans: 31,624
Charlotte: 27,871
Atlanta: 22,435
Nashville: 16,702
Boston: 16,488
Chicago: 14,964
Austin: 12,363
Tampa: 11,291
Kansas City: 10,416
Philadelphia: 10,235

Ecuadoran - 803,854
New York City: 401,610
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 46,206
Chicago: 30,205
Los Angeles: 24,714
Bridgeport: 16,554
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 12,849
Philadelphia: 12,502
Washington DC: 12,305
Boston: 11,082

Peruvian - 712,740
New York City: 152,439
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 84,129
Washington DC: 52,743
Los Angeles: 43,866
San Francisco: 17,157
Houston: 13,344
Chicago: 12,725
Tampa: 10,627
Orlando: 10,040

Venezuelan - 627,961
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 184,003
Houston: 45,129
Orlando: 37,147
New York City: 35,936
Atlanta: 20,881
Tampa: 19,285
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,289
Chicago: 10,719

Nicaraguan - 441,378
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 129,479
Los Angeles: 39,673
San Francisco: 25,930
New York City: 21,906
Washington DC: 17,049
Houston: 11,938

Argentine - 304,627
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 53,452
New York City: 43,779
Los Angeles: 26,459
Washington DC: 11,631

Panamanian - 224,385
New York City: 34,133
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 15,334

Chilean - 182,671
New York City: 25,713
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 20,300

Bolivian - 128,584
Washington DC: 43,415
New York City: 10,773

Costa Rican - 173,375
New York City: 29,317
Los Angeles: 12,688
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 11,290

Uruguayan - 71,985
New York City: 15,517
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 12,038
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Old 12-23-2023, 09:26 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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New York City having more Puerto Ricans* than any other US city doesn't surprise me, but Philadelphia having more than any city in Florida or Texas does.

*Of course, Puerto Ricans being US citizens, they aren't "foreign" or "alien" residents in the continental US.

Edited to add a bit of free association: I'm also not at all surprised that Kansas City has a decent-sized Mexican immigrant community and that they are the single largest Spanish-speaking immigrant community in the city. In the 19th century, the city attracted significant numbers of Mexicans who came to work on the railroads extending from the city; they settled mainly in two neighborhoods, the West Side of Kansas City, MO, and a KCK neighborhood on the south bank of the Kaw that was home to the Santa Fe railroad yards and called Argentine.

I had thought growing up that it had the name because of some connection to that country. I only recently learned that the neighborhood had that name because a silver smelter was located in it in its early years.
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Old 12-23-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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Here is some ancestry data. Ill start with Hispanic ancestries on this post and Ill move on to others later. Again this is by Urban Area. For Mexicans, all over 50,000 listed. For Puerto Ricans, all over 20,000. The rest, all over 10,000. The numbers next to the nationalities are the total in the US.

Mexican - 37,145,956
Los Angeles: 4,354,726
Houston: 1,644,635
Chicago: 1,597,385
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,484,635
Riverside/San Bernardino: 1,157,376
San Antonio: 1,007,259
Phoenix: 979,878
San Diego: 923,883
McAllen: 686,181
El Paso: 674,939
New York City: 569,486
Las Vegas: 520,064
Denver: 504,893
Austin: 431,441
San Francisco/Oakland: 485,043
Sacramento: 339,875
San Jose: 336,577
Fresno: 314,316
Tucson: 311,403
Atlanta: 304,502
Bakersfield: 282,130
Seattle/Tacoma: 260,582
Albuquerque: 229,098
Laredo: 227,148
Portland: 210,905
Brownsville: 194,829
Stockton: 174,751
Indo/Palm Desert/Palm Springs: 165,931
Modesto: 163,201
Salt Lake City: 157,339
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 146,045
Palmdale/Lancaster: 141,979
Oklahoma City: 134,881
Kansas City: 134,780
Detroit: 126,279
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 122,972
Washington DC: 121,373
Philadelphia: 109,671
Tampa: 96,552
Harlingen: 96,281
Odessa: 87,548
Indianapolis: 85,964
Lubbock: 83,408
Merced: 83,330
Colorado Spring: 73,119
Charlotte: 69,360
Midland: 62,330
Amarillo: 60,806
Waco: 58,719
Fayetteville/Bentonville, AR: 54,719
Orlando: 53,810
Nashville: 52,586

Puerto Rican - 5,902,042
New York City: 1,141,329
Philadelphia: 263,636
Orlando: 236,001
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 230,979
Chicago: 199,684
Tampa: 175,380
Boston: 131,170
Hartford: 122,697
Springfield, MA: 101,425
Atlanta: 61,852
Washington DC: 60,269
Providence: 56,431
Cleveland: 56,092
Los Angeles: 55,172
Bridgeport, CT: 52,255
Houston: 49,032
Dallas/Fort Worth: 48,172
Jacksonville: 43,661
San Antonio: 35,350
Virginia Beach: 33,031
Jacksonville: 31,364
Phoenix: 29,692
San Diego: 26,030
Las Vegas: 26,408
Seattle/Tacoma: 23,142
Baltimore: 22,965
San Francisco: 22,122
Detroit: 22,074
Austin: 20,352

El Salvadoran - 2,389,469
Los Angeles: 450,261
Washington DC: 302,452
New York City: 246,627
Houston: 209,332
Dallas/Fort Worth: 93,789
San Francisco: 77,430
Boston: 61,770
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 46,109
Riverside/San Bernardino: 40,530
Las Vegas: 33,458
Atlanta: 31,561
Baltimore: 28,955
Palmdale/Lancaster: 20,379
Charlotte: 17,993
Chicago: 17,506
Fayetteville/Bentonville, AR: 17,118
Seattle/Tacoma: 15,674
San Jose: 14,583
Philadelphia: 14,127
Phoenix: 13,540
Richmond: 12,480
Sacramento: 11,750
Austin: 10,846
Denver: 10,734

Cuban - 2,405,080
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 1,128,007
New York City: 145,623
Tampa: 134,712
Orlando: 50,756
Los Angeles: 46,462
Houston: 46,288
Cape Coral/Fort Myers: 45,008
Las Vegas: 35,415
Louisville: 24,560
Chicago: 24,298
Dallas/Fort Worth: 21,549
Atlanta: 20,848
Jacksonville: 18,795
Philadelphia: 16,684
Washington DC: 15,664
Phoenix: 13,098
Austin: 11,472
Boston: 11,134

Dominican - 2,267,142
New York City: 1,176,903
Boston: 149,870
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 118,970
Philadelphia: 77,812
Providence: 60,676
Orlando: 37,125
Tampa: 31,950
Washington DC: 26,943
Atlanta: 19,780
Hartford: 11,250
Charlotte: 11,071
Houston: 10,301

Guatemalan - 1,669,094
Los Angeles: 291,288
New York City: 126,066
Washington DC: 81,403
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 76,724
Houston: 71,826
San Francisco: 48,953
Boston: 42,049
Chicago: 39,172
Atlanta: 37,556
Providence: 29,292
Riverside/San Bernardino: 28,180
Dallas/Fort Worth: 28,092
Philadelphia: 20,127
Bridgeport: 19,282
Phoenix: 17,985
Las Vegas: 16,472
Orlando: 12,735
Cincinnati: 12,331
San Diego: 11,882
Baltimore: 10,334
Oklahoma City: 10,191

Colombian - 1,357,708
New York City: 291,202
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 260,569
Houston: 46,248
Los Angeles: 40,946
Orlando: 40,310
Tampa: 37,017
Boston: 34,943
Washington DC: 31,207
Atlanta: 27,938
Chicago: 25,241
Philadelphia: 20,943
Bridgeport: 16,246
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,384
Providence: 11,707

Honduran - 1,068,265
New York City: 123,122
Houston: 105,543
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 99,053
Los Angeles: 59,233
Washington DC: 57,518
Dallas/Fort Worth: 38,392
New Orleans: 31,624
Charlotte: 27,871
Atlanta: 22,435
Nashville: 16,702
Boston: 16,488
Chicago: 14,964
Austin: 12,363
Tampa: 11,291
Kansas City: 10,416
Philadelphia: 10,235

Ecuadoran - 803,854
New York City: 401,610
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 46,206
Chicago: 30,205
Los Angeles: 24,714
Bridgeport: 16,554
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 12,849
Philadelphia: 12,502
Washington DC: 12,305
Boston: 11,082

Peruvian - 712,740
New York City: 152,439
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 84,129
Washington DC: 52,743
Los Angeles: 43,866
San Francisco: 17,157
Houston: 13,344
Chicago: 12,725
Tampa: 10,627
Orlando: 10,040

Venezuelan - 627,961
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 184,003
Houston: 45,129
Orlando: 37,147
New York City: 35,936
Atlanta: 20,881
Tampa: 19,285
Dallas/Fort Worth: 15,289
Chicago: 10,719

Nicaraguan - 441,378
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 129,479
Los Angeles: 39,673
San Francisco: 25,930
New York City: 21,906
Washington DC: 17,049
Houston: 11,938

Argentine - 304,627
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 53,452
New York City: 43,779
Los Angeles: 26,459
Washington DC: 11,631

Panamanian - 224,385
New York City: 34,133
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 15,334

Chilean - 182,671
New York City: 25,713
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 20,300

Bolivian - 128,584
Washington DC: 43,415
New York City: 10,773

Costa Rican - 173,375
New York City: 29,317
Los Angeles: 12,688
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 11,290

Uruguayan - 71,985
New York City: 15,517
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 12,038

Chicago having almost 3 times more Mexicans than NYC is something I’ll always fail to understand. Also, not even 50k Mexicans in Boston? what about Brazilians?
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Old 12-24-2023, 05:41 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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Chicago having almost 3 times more Mexicans than NYC is something I’ll always fail to understand. Also, not even 50k Mexicans in Boston? what about Brazilians?
Chicago just has a lot more history with Mexico than NYC. People from Mexico have been moving to Chicago for far longer than NYC. Mexicans are for Chicago what Puerto Ricans are for NYC.

Boston has 33,118 people claiming Mexican ancestry so no go there.

Ill do Brazil in my next post.
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Old 12-24-2023, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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New York City having more Puerto Ricans* than any other US city doesn't surprise me, but Philadelphia having more than any city in Florida or Texas does.

*Of course, Puerto Ricans being US citizens, they aren't "foreign" or "alien" residents in the continental US.
So when we look the number of people born in Puerto Rico that live in these urban areas, it is a bit different:

New York City: 287,194
Orlando: 121,774
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 105,724
Philadelphia: 81,769
Tampa: 74,589
Boston: 50,673
Chicago: 49,133
Houston: 30,447
Atlanta: 28,947
Washington DC: 24,998
Dallas/Fort Worth: 23,176
Los Angeles: 17,996
San Antonio: 15,083
San Diego: 10,620
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Old 12-24-2023, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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So when we look the number of people born in Puerto Rico that live in these urban areas, it is a bit different:

New York City: 287,194
Orlando: 121,774
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 105,724
Philadelphia: 81,769
Tampa: 74,589
Boston: 50,673
Chicago: 49,133
Houston: 30,447
Atlanta: 28,947
Washington DC: 24,998
Dallas/Fort Worth: 23,176
Los Angeles: 17,996
San Antonio: 15,083
San Diego: 10,620
Hartford and Springfield dissapear. Truly hyper Americanized
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Old 12-24-2023, 07:48 PM
 
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Also, not even 50k Mexicans in Boston?
The Mexican community in Boston is about as prominent as I imagine the Dominican one is in San Diego.
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