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I understand your point, but IMO, the best way to accurately assess a city's demographic makeup/atmosphere is by the downtown daytime population demographics (if available) but even that would be pretty nuanced too. Chinatown will still have a significantly higher Asian population ofc and 17th and Spring Garden will feel more mixed or predominantly black because of the community college and the old PR/AA enclave a few blocks north.
That only works for a city like Philly, NYC, or Chicago because those cities are dense and have large city limits populations relative to the area. For a city like Dallas, Boston, San Francisco, Atlanta, or Miami that would not work at all because those are all either small relative to their urban area size or not that dense.
In order to compare all cities demographically, you have to find a metric that works for every major city in the US. City proper population is out. Daytime demographics are out. CSA is out. This is the best way.
Here is the foreign born data. In the total count, all over 200,000 are listed. By individual Urban Area, all over 25,000 are listed. In a separate post, I will do the same foreign born data per capita. Ill combine both total size and per capita in some way to rank them factoring in both.
Foreign Born Population by Urban Area
New York City: 5,797,985
Los Angeles: 4,065,070
Miami/Fort Lauderdale: 2,522,689
Chicago: 1,625,903
Houston: 1,529,282
Washington DC: 1,362,608
Dallas/Fort Worth: 1,189,409
San Francisco: 1,150,471
Boston: 944,526
Atlanta: 825,296
Seattle/Tacoma: 757,589
San Jose: 754,259
San Diego: 710,703
Philadelphia: 675,109
Phoenix: 565,780
Riverside/San Bernardino: 549,635
Las Vegas: 487,896
Tampa: 432,255
Detroit: 424,869
Sacramento: 386,217
Orlando: 371,172
Minneapolis/St. Paul: 370,503
Denver: 341,693
Austin: 298,431
Portland: 292,200
Baltimore: 267,089
San Antonio: 258,789
Charlotte: 208,820
1. For Nigerians
1. For Hondurans
2. For Pakistanis (After NYC)
2. For Venezuelans (After Miami)
3. For Vietnamese (After LA and San Jose)
3. For Cubans (After MIA and NYC)
3. For Colombians (After MIA and NY)
3. For Mexicans (after LA and Chicago)
4. For Salvadorans (LA, DC and NYC)
5. For Guatemalans (LA, NY, MIA, DC,)
It's hitting all over the world. After the Behemoths of NY and LA, Houston and DC really shine.
And of course Miami kicks butt in the Latin American category.
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Wow, Houston is
It's hitting all over the world. After the Behemoths of NY and LA, Houston and DC really shine.
And of course Miami kicks butt in the Latin American category.
DC and Houston both shine with numeric totals, number of countries, and by percentages. Miami has more countries, but DC/HOU both beat it in parts of the world. Currently only 3 urban areas have all four major racial categories above 10%, NYC, DC, and Las Vegas. Houston's sitting at 9.2% Asian now so likely will be the fourth.
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Philly does not appear to be 21% black at street level at all. One of the most noticeable things about Center City compared to other downtowns is the visibility of minorities.
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Visiting Eagles games? but sporting events skew white everywhere... The only areas in the city where those demographics are reflected are in the far Northwest , far Northeast and deep South Philly, below Snyder Ave but these areas are not visited by tourists, so it would be inaccurate for someone to assume that Philly is predominantly white based on those neighborhoods.
I know you dinged As Above So Below... for using "city" and "urban area" interchangeably in their original post, but I agree with them that to get a feel for an entire urban area, one must also take into account the urbanized parts of the suburban counties, which is what the OMB's "urban area" definitions do. And many people will refer to that larger area as "city" rather than "metro" or "urban area", much as those who live in the suburbs of a city will say they're from the city itself (or at worst, they will say they're from "outside" that city) when traveling to another city.
It is true, though, that what you will encounter in the core city's center will likely differ a great deal from what you will encounter in even the most urbane of that city's suburbs, with few exceptions. Often, as in Philadelphia's case, the core city contains more nonwhites and fewer whites than the suburbs do, and those nonwhites make up a larger share of the people you see on the downtown streets.
I do, however, think that those urban area figures also help explain something about the urban-rural divide in our national politics. Of the nation's 10 largest urban areas, only two — Philadelphia and Boston — are majority white; all the rest are "majority minority" — which is where the country as a whole is headed demographically.* IDK what the demographic breakdown of the City of Boston is, but also worth remarking on here is that the City of Philadelphia is also majority-minority. That means that its suburbs are noticeably whiter than the city is. And yet many of us know about pockets of Black settlement on the (overwhelmingly white) Main Line or heterogeneous suburbs like Upper Darby.
*Edited to add: And in case anyone forgot that this is now an urban nation, the populations of the two largest UAs alone account for nearly 10 percent of the national population, and the 10 biggest comprise about 23 percent of the total. Probably if you added up the populations of all 44 of the cities on the list in post 1, you'd find that you had close to 50 percent of the country. (The percentage figure, btw, is 43.2.)
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Here is the per Capita immigrant information. I think the fair way to judge the strength and visibility of an immigrant community is to take the number of groups that have over 25,000 and the number of groups that consist of more than 0.5% of the total population, then to average out those two numbers. That will combine both sheer number of immigrants as well as potential visibility (via per capita). This will allow us to truly measure an urban areas immigrant diversity.
New York City - 16
Dominican Republic: 667,575
China: 445,765
India: 361,856
Mexico: 265,417
Ecuador: 253,107
Jamaica: 241,181
Colombia: 186,319
Guyana: 183,809
Haiti: 161,615
Philippines: 151,753
El Salvador: 145,491
Korea: 135,095
Bangladesh: 116,916
Peru: 103,206
Trinidad and Tobago: 100,781
Poland: 96,938
SF has the smallest plurality in this list(exactly one third), by fairly large margin at that, about 5 percent lower than DC and Vegas. Lots of affluent whites live in the 925 area code but that's part of the MSA, it's not part of the UA.
The combined UAs, which actually feel like a single, contiguous UA in real life, show Immigrants outnumbering all racial groups, the largest being Asian, which itself is an anomaly on the US mainland.
I was going to make this a thread but changed my mind after I couldn't pull up Weston, MA in data.census.gov
2 criteria:
1. $400,000+
2. Pop: 2,000+
MSA Census Places by Average Family Income, 2022 5-year Estimates:
New York: 16 places
$630,683--2,937---Brookville, NY
$601,993--18,063--Scarsdale, NY
$513,096--2,714---Sands Point, NY
$504,884--14,500--Short Hill, NJ
$489,500--7,292---Rumson, NJ
$497,249--16,459--Rye, NY
$476,930--2,806---Munsey Park, NY
$488,969--6,959---Bronxville, NY
$465,690--4,567---Old Westbury, NY
$436,062--5,520---Lyons, NJ
$426,748--4,380---Southampton, NY
$426,079--5,698---Pelham Manor, NY
$420,093--4,222---Ho Ho Kus, NJ
$415,683--7,231---East Hills, NY
$414,175--6,532---Larchmont, NY
$403,790--3,577---Lloyd Harbor, NY
San Francisco: 13 places
$648,513--6,915---Atherton, CA
$593,652--4,289---Portola Valley, CA
$564,493--11,016--Hillsborough, CA
$508,847--2,104---Belvedere, CA
$503,181--2,327---Ross, CA
$478,684--3,720---West Menlo Park, CA
$468,330--4,893---Emerald Lake Hills, CA
$463,570--5,131---Woodside, CA
$439,331--11,107--Piedmont, CA
$431,957--2,366---Sleepy Hollow, CA
$429,600--7,423---Kentfield, CA
$421,888--4,027---Highlands, CA
$413,454--13,864--Alamo, CA
Houston: 5 places
$556,773--3,072---Piney Point Village, TX
$552,173--4,314---Hunters Creek Village, TX
$449,924--3,761---Bunker Hill Village, TX
$445,963--2,328---Hedwig Village, TX
$426,956--14,792--West University Place, TX
Chicago: 4 places
$504,375--12,475--Winnetka, IL
$499,306--2,451---Kenilworth, IL
$429,709--8,687---Glencoe, IL
$425,055--17,273--Hinsdale, IL
San Jose: 4 places
$508,717--8,295---Los Altos Hills, CA
$473,311--3,396---Monte Sereno, CA
$451,282--30,700--Los Altos, CA
$431,340--3,404---Loyola, CA
Washington DC: 4 places
$577,528--2,030---Chevy Chase Village, MD
$534,514--9,801---Chevy Chase Town, MD
$478,391--3,925---Brookmont, MD
$410,401--48,566--McLean, VA
Boston: 3 places
$560,458--2,413---Dover, MA
$425,556--28,747--Wellesley, MA
$411,805--3,567---Hopkington, MA
Dallas: 2 places
$503,701--8,747---Highland Park, TX
$426,968--24,849--University Park, TX
Seattle: 2 places
$575,417--3,108---Clyde Hill, WA
$465,328--2,886---Medina, WA
Miami: 1 place
$414,800--9,251---Palm Beach, FL
Phoenix: 1 place
$412,832--12,682--Paradise Valley, AZ
Los Angeles: 0
Notes:
1. Fisher Island, FL came in at $1M+ but there are only 360 people.
2. Rolling Hills and Hidden Hills in LA have the income but the populations are both under 2,000
I only did these metros, may revisit and add in the future.
Last edited by 18Montclair; 12-13-2023 at 02:31 PM..
Reason: Piney Point Village, TX
Dallas has a Piney Point Village too?
Are you sure it's not the same one as Houston??
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