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View Poll Results: Which City is the Densest and tallest?
Boston 17 9.55%
Philadelphia 52 29.21%
Pittsburgh 1 0.56%
Baltimore 0 0%
Miami 11 6.18%
Atlanta 6 3.37%
Houston 17 9.55%
Dallas 2 1.12%
Seattle 8 4.49%
San Francisco 56 31.46%
Other 8 4.49%
Voters: 178. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12-29-2009, 02:51 PM
 
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Just wondering, is there a set scientific descriptor for density of skylines? I notice many rag on Southern cities because our CBD is tall but spread out. Then, in the case of Houston, pictures are shown illustrating that Houstons skyline is tall and dense. I think Houston is definitely the tallest out of all the cities listed. Based on anyone perception its a toss up between Philly, San Francisco, and Houston.
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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As far as density, I think its a toss up between SF and Boston

Zip Code City Population Density Per Square Mile(20,000+), 2000 Census

94109 San Francisco 50,413
94102 San Francisco 44,643
94108 San Francisco 40,650
94133 San Francisco 34,558
94110 San Francisco 30,020
94115 San Francisco 28,693
94112 San Francisco 22,412
94114 San Francisco 21,940
94118 San Francisco 21,028
94123 San Francisco 20,961
94122 San Francisco 20,373

90057 Los Angeles 48,259
90020 Los Angeles 36,302
90005 Los Angeles 32,605
90006 Los Angeles 32,267
90017 Los Angeles 30,718
90029 Los Angeles 29,694
90004 Los Angeles 22,050
90011 Los Angeles 21,784
90038 Los Angeles 20,767
90028 Los Angeles 20,596

60610 Chicago 37,013
60660 Chicago 34,366
60626 Chicago 34,039
60611 Chicago 31,536
60657 Chicago 28,502
60640 Chicago 28,012
60647 Chicago 26,326
60625 Chicago 24,289
60622 Chicago 22,414
60613 Chicago 22,404
60651 Chicago 20,708
60614 Chicago 20,529

02113 Boston 57,429
02115 Boston 36,706
02116 Boston 29,284
02118 Boston 25,966
02114 Boston 25,930
02215 Boston 25,359
02109 Boston 22,518
02121 Boston 20,667

19103 Philadelphia 28,337
19148 Philadelphia 27,316
19102 Philadelphia 25,818
19147 Philadelphia 24,517
19139 Philadelphia 22,950
19143 Philadelphia 22,855
19133 Philadelphia 21,947
19149 Philadelphia 20,723
19121 Philadelphia 20,574
19120 Philadelphia 20,462
19107 Philadelphia 20,191

20009 Washington 34,133
20052 Washington 28,199
20010 Washington 27,253
20005 Washington 26,783
20006 Washington 26,561

96826 Honolulu 25,352

33130 Miami 20,339

Other Major Cities Densest Zip Code
98101 Seattle 14,258
77081 Houston 14,120
75321 Dallas 9,304
30308 Atlanta 8,383
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Old 12-29-2009, 03:42 PM
 
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^^ Cool data! Tried to rep ya, but gotta spread it around.

02115 Boston 36,706 --that's my work!
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Old 12-29-2009, 05:24 PM
 
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Houston is the only one with more than one supertall, One Shell Plaza cheats its way with an antenna mast, but that speaks a lot. Plus Wells Fargo Plaza is 8 feet short of being a supertall at 992 ft. I think we need to consider that height is equally as important as density. Thats the one reason that Honolulu wouldnt be mentioned.

I mean just look at Houstons 3 Tallest in the CBD
JP Morgan Chase Tower-1,002 ft
One Shell Plaza-1,000 ft(with antenna)
Wells Fargo Plaza-992 ft.

Without that mast though, Houston's third tallest falls to a tall 700-footer...

So that is why i say, Houston is up there with Philly and SF, but i guess density is more important than height for some in this comparison


Really old picture, 2001! Quite a few buildings have been built since, and these wouldve stood out the most: 1500 Lousiana, Reliant Energy Plaza, One Park Place, Calpine Center, Hess Tower(u/c) ranging from 400 ft to 600 ft.

TexasFreeway.com > Houston

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k353/northbayoukid/other%20things/3.jpg (broken link)
Its Snowing In Houston!!! - SkyscraperCity
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Houston is the only one with more than one supertall, One Shell Plaza cheats its way with an antenna mast, but that speaks a lot. Plus Wells Fargo Plaza is 8 feet short of being a supertall at 992 ft. I think we need to consider that height is equally as important as density. Thats the one reason that Honolulu wouldnt be mentioned.

I mean just look at Houstons 3 Tallest in the CBD
JP Morgan Chase Tower-1,002 ft
One Shell Plaza-1,000 ft(with antenna)
Wells Fargo Plaza-992 ft.

Without that mast though, Houston's third tallest falls to a tall 700-footer...

So that is why i say, Houston is up there with Philly and SF, but i guess density is more important than height for some in this comparison


Really old picture, 2001! Quite a few buildings have been built since, and these wouldve stood out the most: 1500 Lousiana, Reliant Energy Plaza, One Park Place, Calpine Center, Hess Tower(u/c) ranging from 400 ft to 600 ft.

TexasFreeway.com > Houston


Its Snowing In Houston!!! - SkyscraperCity

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I think we need to consider that height is equally as important as density.
Height is only one aspect of this comparison. If you're actually in a city, density is much more relevant than height. As it has been shown previously, Houston's downtown isn't nearly as large Philadelphia, San Francisco, or Boston...and it's not even close in the case of SF and Bos when it comes to office space.
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Old 12-29-2009, 11:27 PM
 
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Houston hands Down.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:03 AM
 
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As far as density, I think its a toss up between SF and Boston

Zip Code City Population Density Per Square Mile(20,000+), 2000 Census

94109 San Francisco 50,413
94102 San Francisco 44,643
94108 San Francisco 40,650
94133 San Francisco 34,558
94110 San Francisco 30,020
94115 San Francisco 28,693
94112 San Francisco 22,412
94114 San Francisco 21,940
94118 San Francisco 21,028
94123 San Francisco 20,961
94122 San Francisco 20,373

90057 Los Angeles 48,259
90020 Los Angeles 36,302
90005 Los Angeles 32,605
90006 Los Angeles 32,267
90017 Los Angeles 30,718
90029 Los Angeles 29,694
90004 Los Angeles 22,050
90011 Los Angeles 21,784
90038 Los Angeles 20,767
90028 Los Angeles 20,596

60610 Chicago 37,013
60660 Chicago 34,366
60626 Chicago 34,039
60611 Chicago 31,536
60657 Chicago 28,502
60640 Chicago 28,012
60647 Chicago 26,326
60625 Chicago 24,289
60622 Chicago 22,414
60613 Chicago 22,404
60651 Chicago 20,708
60614 Chicago 20,529

02113 Boston 57,429
02115 Boston 36,706
02116 Boston 29,284
02118 Boston 25,966
02114 Boston 25,930
02215 Boston 25,359
02109 Boston 22,518
02121 Boston 20,667

19103 Philadelphia 28,337
19148 Philadelphia 27,316
19102 Philadelphia 25,818
19147 Philadelphia 24,517
19139 Philadelphia 22,950
19143 Philadelphia 22,855
19133 Philadelphia 21,947
19149 Philadelphia 20,723
19121 Philadelphia 20,574
19120 Philadelphia 20,462
19107 Philadelphia 20,191

20009 Washington 34,133
20052 Washington 28,199
20010 Washington 27,253
20005 Washington 26,783
20006 Washington 26,561

96826 Honolulu 25,352

33130 Miami 20,339

Other Major Cities Densest Zip Code
98101 Seattle 14,258
77081 Houston 14,120
75321 Dallas 9,304
30308 Atlanta 8,383
Are these numbers where people live or work?
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:05 AM
 
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Are these numbers where people live or work?
I think where people live, but Houston's zip code 77081 is more like 16 - 17 people per sq. mile. LOTS of illegal immigrants live within that area and lots of the time statistics don't include them. The population states its about 50,000 within the area, but others say it's more like 70,000 due to illegals.

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Between 1980 and 2000 the population of Gulfton increased by almost 100 percent with no additional complexes established. By 2005, 60 percent of Gulfton residents were not born in the United States and held citizenships in 42 countries. Many residents were illegal immigrants. More than 20 percent of the households did not own cars.[4] Starting in the mid-1980s, the Gulfton population experienced increases in female and children populations.[
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The 2000 census stated that Gulfton, described as a "hard to enumerate" tract by the U.S. Census Bureau,[4] is the densest neighborhood in the City of Houston; it reported 45,000 people in approximately three square miles. Some community leaders believed that the true population was closer to 70,000. In a 2006 National Center for School Engagement report, Susana Herrera, the program coordinator for Houston's Truancy Reduction Demonstration Project, said that social service agencies and government officials estimated Gulfton's population as 60,000, with 20,000 juveniles. Under-representation in the census was possible since many of the area's immigrants, especially those residing in the country illegally, may have been distrustful of the government's attempt to obtain personal information.[
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:10 AM
 
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^ If they are where people live how does that apply to the Central Business District, which is where people work not live? I think they only tell part of the story. I think if we had data stating the square footage of the CBD followed by vacancy rates that might be a better gauge of which one is densest.
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Old 12-30-2009, 09:55 AM
 
Location: Denver
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