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Old 10-20-2009, 06:30 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I'm with you afonega1.
DC is actually a district and should not be included in a top 5 most important cities list.
It is also the capital of the nation which would make it automatically the number 1.
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Old 10-20-2009, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Searching n Atlanta
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Thanks for the Information on SanFran it gives me alot more perspective on what that Area has to offer. Cause I was just asking myself what sanfran had to offer to the USA.

I wish I knew what maybe Chicago has to offer so maybe it can move up on my list? (To lazy to read or research)

Top 5 (When choosing the top 5 I chose importance on National, and Global Scale, Population, Cultural influence, Diversity, and importance on its local level as well, services, history and other factors as well like my personal opinion.

1. NYC/DC Tie
2. LA
3. Chicago
4.01 Atlanta
4.04 Houston (Both of these cities are equally important after reading about 20 pages of this thread but atlanta has 2 or 3 more points of its services it provides on the local level, but Houston could easily beat out Atlanta if Atlanta doesnt countinue and grow like it is, and if Hou was to disapeer tommorow the country would be halted for a couple of weeks but then would be back to normal cause oil would just move to Dallas and Anchorage)
5/6 SanFran/Bos (Very important cities in there own respect but cities in there region already over shadow them)
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:23 AM
 
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Default I think..

..it very possible that this thread has outlived its usefulness. After 80-odd pages, the conversation is just going around in circles.

I think it's time to move on.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Houston Inner Loop
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Thanks for the Information on SanFran it gives me alot more perspective on what that Area has to offer. Cause I was just asking myself what sanfran had to offer to the USA.

I wish I knew what maybe Chicago has to offer so maybe it can move up on my list? (To lazy to read or research)

Top 5 (When choosing the top 5 I chose importance on National, and Global Scale, Population, Cultural influence, Diversity, and importance on its local level as well, services, history and other factors as well like my personal opinion.

1. NYC/DC Tie
2. LA
3. Chicago
4.01 Atlanta
4.04 Houston (Both of these cities are equally important after reading about 20 pages of this thread but atlanta has 2 or 3 more points of its services it provides on the local level, but Houston could easily beat out Atlanta if Atlanta doesnt countinue and grow like it is, and if Hou was to disapeer tommorow the country would be halted for a couple of weeks but then would be back to normal cause oil would just move to Dallas and Anchorage)
5/6 SanFran/Bos (Very important cities in there own respect but cities in there region already over shadow them)
Yeah, all the petrochem industrial complex, including the major pipeline system that originates in the Houston area would just "move" to Dallas or Anchorage. What an ignorant statement. No, if Houston "disappeared" the nation would grind to a halt and a major world depression would probably ensue. Thanks for playing, though!
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Rockville, MD
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DC is actually a district and should not be included in a top 5 most important cities list.


I don't live in a city? That's a new one.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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3 billion is still a lot though, and 2nd place is definitely a good spot.

I'd also add for our oil and energy-loving friends that aside from the four national laboratories, two huge research universities, and startups of all kinds, the Bay Area is also home to one of energy supermajors (Houston beats that out with two). Again, the Bay Area may not beat other cities out in every single category, though it does in some, it still remains competitive in a huge variety of fields which should make it a shoe-in for one of the top 5 spots. There's also the harder to measure effects of having such a progressive area open to new ideas of all kinds. If there were a metro with a like-sized GDP and population, the Bay Area would still be more influential because the area does not sit as a placeholder for the status quo. There are constantly new ideas and technologies streaming from the area whose impact is much greater and more systematic.

And yes, SF is a small city so if we limited the argument to specifically within the city limits, then SF certainly can not rank in the top 5. However, going by city limits is arbitrary and tosses the physical reality of an integrated and interconnected Bay Area aside.
5 supermajor energy companies are located in Houston though. Shell, Chevron, BP, Exxon Mobil, and Conocophillips. Houston is the American headquarters for all these companies.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:47 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Thanks for the Information on SanFran it gives me alot more perspective on what that Area has to offer. Cause I was just asking myself what sanfran had to offer to the USA.

I wish I knew what maybe Chicago has to offer so maybe it can move up on my list? (To lazy to read or research)

Top 5 (When choosing the top 5 I chose importance on National, and Global Scale, Population, Cultural influence, Diversity, and importance on its local level as well, services, history and other factors as well like my personal opinion.

1. NYC/DC Tie
2. LA
3. Chicago
4.01 Atlanta
4.04 Houston (Both of these cities are equally important after reading about 20 pages of this thread but atlanta has 2 or 3 more points of its services it provides on the local level, but Houston could easily beat out Atlanta if Atlanta doesnt countinue and grow like it is, and if Hou was to disapeer tommorow the country would be halted for a couple of weeks but then would be back to normal cause oil would just move to Dallas and Anchorage)
5/6 SanFran/Bos (Very important cities in there own respect but cities in there region already over shadow them)
Couple of weeks? It would take longer than a couple of weeks for the country to recover from losing Houston. Houston's home (Headquartered to only 1) to 5 of the 6 supermajor energy companies in the country. 2 of the 4 largest refineries in the US. Holds about 30% of the US jobs in Oil and gas extraction. Also home to 13 of US 20 largest Natural gas transmission companies.

You can't just pick up oil and move it like that. Your crazy if you think Houston won't have a huge impact on the country if anything happened to it.

It would take us about a day to recover for losing Atlanta considering the fact it doesn't have valuable resources which keep the country running. Your talking about losing the King of Oil. Don't underestimate Houston.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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I consider the CDC an extremely valuable resource. And not just for the U.S.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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I consider the CDC an extremely valuable resource. And not just for the U.S.
It could easily be replaced. You have many other facilities around the country doing the same thing as CDC.
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Old 10-20-2009, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It could easily be replaced. You have many other facilities around the country doing the same thing as CDC.
No, there are not.

Don't underestimate the importance of this Agency. And it could NOT be replaced in a day, as you claim.
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