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To be fair, Little Haiti isn't African American obviously and Overtown and Liberty City is now nearly mostly Islanders. I can understand where Polo is coming from. Never heard of Upper Eastside. Most of the African Americans moved North into Broward County up Northern Dade County.
This is not true. Broward's swelling black population is mostly related to immigration from the Islands, in fact there are more West Indians than AAs or any other ethnic group in Broward County. The largest AA population is definitely in Miami Gardens. Most heavily black areas in Broward, like Lauderhill, Miramar, etc are far more West Indian than Overtown or anywhere in Dade really. Also, Broward's fair sized black middle class is particularly balanced towards various first generation Islanders. Some of the classically black areas in Miami-Dade has seen some increase in immigration from the islands but not enough to be called "mostly", more like 10-15%.
So yes, there was southern influence in Miami and the South Florida area and pockets do exist in the black community (especially Overtown, Liberty City, Perrine, etc), but it's overall far more of a Latinized/West Indian culture and the anglo areas have more of a Northeastern culture.
This is not true. Broward's swelling black population is mostly related to immigration from the Islands, in fact there are more West Indians than AAs or any other ethnic group in Broward County. The largest AA population is definitely in Miami Gardens. Most heavily black areas in Broward, like Lauderhill, Miramar, etc are far more West Indian than Overtown or anywhere in Dade really. Some of the classically black areas in Miami-Dade has seen some increase in immigration from the islands but not enough to be called "mostly", more like 10-15%.
You read my comment wrong. I said most of the African Americans MOVED to Broward County. Meaning, most of the African Americans that was in Dade that lived in Liberty City and the likes have moved to Broward County. Didn't say they make up most of Broward County. But that they moved up there. Blacks went from Liberty City to Opa Locka to Carol City to Miramar and so on and so on. They continued to advance North. There are also many West Indian and Islanders in Miami Gardens as well. They are deep in Norland and in Lake Lucerne.
Yeah but the difference is that Miami has a very large black population and it's a powerful presence in the Miami area. Not the same for San Antonio which doesn't have a large black population. 1.1 million in Miami compared to only 121k in San Antonio.
But a GREAT portion of those blacks are Caribbean and don't think of themselves as southerners.
To be fair, Little Haiti isn't African American obviously and Overtown and Liberty City is now nearly mostly Islanders. I can understand where Polo is coming from. Never heard of Upper Eastside. Most of the African Americans moved North into Broward County up Northern Dade County.
Miami dealt with the same problems as other southern cities such as segregation and racism within the black community. These types of things weren't that much a problem in San Antonio because of the large Hispanic community.
But that was way back then. No cultural significance now as to why it is southern.
You read my comment wrong. I said most of the African Americans MOVED to Broward County. Meaning, most of the African Americans that was in Dade that lived in Liberty City and the likes have moved to Broward County. Didn't say they make up most of Broward County. But that they moved up there. Blacks went from Liberty City to Opa Locka to Carol City to Miramar and so on and so on. They continued to advance North. There are also many West Indian and Islanders in Miami Gardens as well. They are deep in Norland and in Lake Lucerne.
This is not true. Broward's swelling black population is mostly related to immigration from the Islands, in fact there are more West Indians than AAs or any other ethnic group in Broward County. The largest AA population is definitely in Miami Gardens. Most heavily black areas in Broward, like Lauderhill, Miramar, etc are far more West Indian than Overtown or anywhere in Dade really. Also, Broward's fair sized black middle class is particularly balanced towards various first generation Islanders. Some of the classically black areas in Miami-Dade has seen some increase in immigration from the islands but not enough to be called "mostly", more like 10-15%.
So yes, there was southern influence in Miami and the South Florida area and pockets do exist in the black community (especially Overtown, Liberty City, Perrine, etc), but it's overall far more of a Latinized/West Indian culture and the anglo areas have more of a Northeastern culture.
Most parts of Miami where anglos even exist are home almost chiefly to Jewish and Italian New Yorkers.
I definately agree with that. You're not gonna find ALOT if ANY NATIVE ANGLO SOUTHERNERS in Miami. And the whites who were born in Miami or south florida all the way up to west palm that I knew, had parents from up north, so they didn't carry the typical southern accent.
Depends what you mean by "southern" . I've never been to San Antonio, so I could not comment. Miami is lovely though, it depends where you live. "Deep South" in Miami, maybe not. Still it is very beautiful full of land to go play in lakes, and beaches, lighthouses, horseback riding, strawberry picking, picnics lol. Not really making a point but These states are southern in general because excluding these cities apparently, and the people might not be typical "southerners" but the location is.
Are you speaking of the San Antonio Robert E. Lee Volunteers? If so, you are very correct. Their mascot and motif was very Old South Southern in that regard.
Of course, I also remember the 1971 4A State Championship Game where my own alma-mater -- although I was just in Junior High at the time -- the Wichita Falls Coyotes, played them.
It was later listed in Dave Campbells "Texas Football" mag as the best high school football game ever played in the state of Texas. SA Lee won 21-20, as I recall. Anyway, I DO remember the "Dixie" fight song. Whatever one feels about the WBTS or the Confederacy or anything associated, there is something about that song when played by marching bands with cymbals crashing and bass horns blasting that makes one want to stomp and holler and cheer (especially if one is Texan/Southern). Even we "Coyote" fans had to clap along with it!
Yes that is the high school SA Lee Vols, I had forgotten about their Dixie fight song, they were a power house back in the 60's and 70's. Tommy Kramer who was quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings played on that 71 Lee team. The school had a huge painted Rebel flag in front of the school long gone now. There are some things southern in SA.
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