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I SOMEWHAT agree, I used to live in TX. I think TX is EASILY the #2 MOST diverse landscape state in the country. #1 is California.
Well now that I think about it I guess CA is a little more diverse than TX. CA has the redwoods and the sequoias and the Sierra Nevadas are nicer mountains than the mountains that you have in west TX. Yeah I agree TX is number 2.
It's weird CA and TX are 1 and 2 in population. They're also 1 and 2 in terms of landscape diversity. CA and TX are definitely unique states.
You have clearly never been to West Texas or Big Bend. All of the following pictures were taken IN TEXAS.
Yeah I know west TX has mountains and desert but I was saying that most of the older westerns weren't filmed in TX. They were set in TX but filmed in AZ or southern CA. This was done for economical reasons. It was a lot closer and cheaper to go from Hollywood to southern CA or from Hollywood to AZ than it was to go all the way to west TX.
Most of TX though isn't desert and mountains though which is the stereotype that was propagated as a result of these westerns.
You have clearly never been to West Texas or Big Bend. All of the following pictures were taken IN TEXAS.
THIS is INDEED, West Texas. And THIS part of Texas is NOT Southern. Texas IS essentially a Southern state, BUT Call me crazy but I just DON'T see the SOUTH in these pics, no matter how Southern Baptist the people there might be. The LARGEST Southern Baptist church in America is in Orange County California. And this comment wasn't directed at you, I just wanted to use your pics to prove a point. I see the SOUTHWEST in these pics.
Well now that I think about it I guess CA is a little more diverse than TX. CA has the redwoods and the sequoias and the Sierra Nevadas are nicer mountains than the mountains that you have in west TX. Yeah I agree TX is number 2.
It's weird CA and TX are 1 and 2 in population. They're also 1 and 2 in terms of landscape diversity. CA and TX are definitely unique states.
They are also number 1 and 2 in the Hispanic population for states. And they are BOTH minority-majority states.
THIS is INDEED, West Texas. And THIS part of Texas is NOT Southern. Texas IS essentially a Southern state, BUT Call me crazy but I just DON'T see the SOUTH in these pics, no matter how Southern Baptist the people there might be. The LARGEST Southern Baptist church in America is in Orange County California. And this comment wasn't directed at you, I just wanted to use your pics to prove a point. I see the SOUTHWEST in these pics.
Is the largest southern Baptist church really in Orange County, CA? When I think of California I think of people that aren't very religious. To me southern Baptists and Californians are at opposite ends of the spectrum. This is probably a stereotype that a lot of people have of CA.
Yes I agree those pictures are definitely a western landscape. Just talking about landscape my impression of TX is east of Austin to LA it looks like the south. The great plains in Lubbock and Amarillo look like the midwest. The mountains and desert in west TX look like the west.
They are also number 1 and 2 in the Hispanic population for states. And they are BOTH minority-majority states.
Yeah the diversity of the people in TX and CA is one of the things that makes these states great. Not only do these states have a lot of Hispanic people but they have quite a few Chinese, Vietnamese, Asian Indian and other types of people. I lived in the upper peninsula of MI for a few years and up there it's 99% white. People up there don't know how to spell diversity.
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Nope. California wins that and it's not even close.
Actually it is close. Alaska, California, Texas, and Oklahoma win as states with the most ecoregions. Alaska has some insane number, like 20, CA and TX each have 12, then Oklahoma has 11, I think. There was a thread about it here once...
THIS is INDEED, West Texas. And THIS part of Texas is NOT Southern. Texas IS essentially a Southern state, BUT Call me crazy but I just DON'T see the SOUTH in these pics, no matter how Southern Baptist the people there might be. The LARGEST Southern Baptist church in America is in Orange County California. And this comment wasn't directed at you, I just wanted to use your pics to prove a point. I see the SOUTHWEST in these pics.
LOL We are just going to have to agree to disagree about most of West Texas. Polo (except for the trans-pecos area which is definitely the true SW).
Otherwise, sure, the physical landscape of most of West Texas has nothing in commmon with the Southeast. However, historically and culturally it was heavily influenced by Southern settlers and it is very different from the Hispanic/Native American dominated "Southwest" of New Mexico and Arizona. It is not just the domination of the Southern Baptists, but voting patterns, speech, etc. But with all that said, I acknowledge your points...we are probably just proceeding from different angles. No problem. And of course, we both agree that Texas is essentially a Southern state...which is probably the bottom-line, anyway..
On a related tangent, are you sure about Orange County in California? I will have to check it out, but I had always heard the single largest Southern Baptist Church (in terms of membership numbers) was the First Baptist Church in Dallas...
Actually it is close. Alaska, California, Texas, and Oklahoma win as states with the most ecoregions. Alaska has some insane number, like 20, CA and TX each have 12, then Oklahoma has 11, I think. There was a thread about it here once...
Yeah I think you're right. I didn't even consider Alaska because it's not part of the continental U.S and I don't know much about it. Since Alaska is more than double the size of TX it would make sense that Alaska has 20 ecoregions and TX has 12. TX and CA are about the same size so if they both have 12 this would make sense.
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