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lol at considering princeton and yale apart of nyc metro area. People take it too far. Princeton and yale share nothing with nyc, its like an hour and change to get to them. Princeton belongs to princeton new jersey, yale to connecticut. Lets not gobble them up just for convenience
The argument is if you are using the Bay Area (a metro region) then for an apples-apples comparison you need to compare it to the NYC metro area (which includes much of NJ and Connecticut).
If it's just SF, then you can only compare it with NYC.
The argument is if you are using the Bay Area (a metro region) then for an apples-apples comparison you need to compare it to the NYC metro area (which includes much of NJ and Connecticut).
If it's just SF, then you can only compare it with NYC.
East St. Louis is a city too. Would comparing it to NYC be an apples-to-apples comparison in your eyes? If we're going to compare comparable locations then let's look at a 7.2 million person location vs. an 8 million person location. For all intents and purposes the two are comparable. Extending the Bay to include Sacramento and beyond would not be comparable, but the Bay Area as a whole would be comparable to NYC. SF alone would really only be comparable to Manhattan, if we're going to be sticklers on boundaries.
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
Isn't UC Davis up near Sacramento?
It sure is, and I wouldn't include it in what the Bay Area has. Only if we're extending the comparison to include the Northern CA mega-region which would include Sac, Santa Cruz, Monterey, Stockton, etc. And NYC metro would win that one easily IMO.
lol at considering princeton and yale apart of nyc metro area. People take it too far. Princeton and yale share nothing with nyc, its like an hour and change to get to them. Princeton belongs to princeton new jersey, yale to connecticut. Lets not gobble them up just for convenience
but UC Davis is supposed to be Bay Area? Come on now. Stanford (which is the best school out in the bay) in Palo Alto is 102 miles from UC Davis campus... how big of an area are we including???
because NYC to New Haven (Yale) is only 79 miles...
SF to Davis is 74 miles...
NYC to Princeton is 51 miles...
SF to Stanford is 35 miles.
So, if SF Bay gets UC Davis, NYC gets Yale ...
If SF Bay gets Stanford, I'd say you have to give NYC Princeton
lets play fair
the only way it really wins if you compare the Bay mega region to NYC proper, or California, to the NYC metro.
how does the OP want it though, might be confused but... they say cities
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Originally Posted by basketballakev
Which of these two cities do you believe has the stronger institutions of higher education?
I think it's dumb to use either the city propers OR the ridiculously huge CSAs. The most apt comparison, in my opinion, is the San-Francisco-Oakland metropolitan area (NOT the entire bay area IE no Stanford or Santa Clara) and the NYC/Long Island/Northern New Jersey metropolitan area (NOT the CSA IE no Princeton or Yale).
Cal Berk and Stanford are far better than NYU and Columbia
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