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View Poll Results: Which city offers the best institutions of higher education?
Bay Area 46 50.55%
NYC 45 49.45%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-15-2009, 03:49 PM
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Without a doubt. I mean Leland Stanford was an SF resident when he built it on his farmland in Palo Alto. And the whole division of the SF and SJ metro areas is silly IMO to begin with. Never in my entire life have I thought of the South Bay as a separate area; its a major component of what makes up the Bay Area. There's no clear dividing line separating SF's metro from Silicon Valley (its arguable for anywhere between Foster City and Palo Alto), and growing up on the Peninsula, anything in the 650 area code was all part of the same thing to me. Even Sunnyvale, where the 408 begins, is part of what I consider my stomping grounds. The south end of this metro area to me is and always has been the Santa Cruz Mountains. Palo Alto is an area I've always considered part of my own, and I've always lived within the SF metro area. Regardless, its all part of the Bay. Especially considering PA's shoreline runs along the Bay's water. Kind of part of the definition of "Bay Area," so its not really even debatable.
Yeah, seriously. you have Palo Alto/Stanford, East Palo Alto, Atherton, and Menlo Park, all next to each other, with no break in the urban fabric...yet Palo Alto and Stanford go to San Jose, and East Palo Alto, Atherton, and Menlo Park go to SF. MSA boundaries follow county lines, so everything in San Mateo county goes to SF, and everything in Santa Clara County goes to SJ, even though the entire bay is ringed by continuous development that doesn't operate based on arbitrary lines drawn on maps...and neither does anyone in the Bay see it as separate MSA's but rather one entire region...which is why in the case of the Bay Area, the CSA measurement is much more accurate.
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:22 PM
 
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This is a list of colleges and universities entirely in, or with a campus in, New York City.
ACA College of Excellence
The Ailey School (Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater)
American Academy McAllister Institute
American Academy of Dramatic Arts
American Musical and Dramatic Academy
Art Institute of New York City
ASA Institute of Business and Computer Technology
Bank Street College of Education
Bard College (Globalization and International Affairs Program)
Berkeley College
Bethel Seminary of the East
Boricua College
Bramson ORT College
Briarcliffe College - The Queens Center
Brooklyn Law School
Christie's Education Inc
City University of New York (CUNY) (multiple campuses)
Baruch College
Borough of Manhattan Community College
Brooklyn College
Bronx Community College
City College of New York
Sophie Davis School of Biomedical Education
CUNY Baccalaureate for Unique and Interdisciplinary Studies
CUNY Graduate Center
CUNY School of Professional Studies
CUNY Graduate School of Journalism
CUNY Macaulay Honors College
CUNY School of Law (at Queens College)
College of Staten Island
Hostos Community College
Hunter College
John Jay College of Criminal Justice
Kingsborough Community College
LaGuardia Community College
Lehman College
Medgar Evers College
New York City College of Technology
Queens College
Queensborough Community College
York College
College of Mount Saint Vincent
College of New Rochelle (School of New Resources)
Columbia University
Barnard College
Teachers College
Cooper Union
DeVry University
Fordham University
Gamla College
General Theological Seminary
Gerstner Sloan Kettering Graduate School of Biomedical Science
Globe Institute of Technology
Hebrew Union College
Helene Fuld College of Nursing
Institute of Design and Construction
Jewish Theological Seminary of America
Juilliard School (The)
Keller Graduate School of Management
The King's College
Laboratory Institute of Merchandising
Long Island Business Institute - Flushing
Long Island College Hospital School of Nursing
Long Island University
Mandl College of Allied Health
Manhattan College
Manhattan School of Music
Marymount Manhattan College
Mercy College
Metropolitan College of New York
Monroe College
The New School (formerly New School University)
Eugene Lang College The New School for Liberal Arts
Mannes College The New School for Music
Milano The New School for Management and Urban Policy
Parsons The New School for Design
The New School for Drama
The New School for General Studies
The New School for Jazz and Contemporary Music
The New School for Social Research
New York Academy of Art (The)
New York Career Institute
New York Institute of Technology
New York Law School
New York School of Interior Design
NYSUM
New York Theological Seminary
New York University of Architecture
New York University
New York University School of Law
Mount Sinai School of Medicine
Nyack College (School of Music)
Pace University
Pacific College of Oriental Medicine
Parsons The New School for Design
Phillips Beth Israel School of Nursing
Plaza College
Polytechnic University of New York
Pratt Institute
Professional Business College
Rabbi Isaac Elchanon Theological Seminary
Richard Guilder Graduate School-American Museum of Natural History
Rockefeller University
Saint Francis College
Saint John's University
New Brunswick Theological Seminary
Saint Joseph's College
Sanford-Brown Institute
School of American Ballet
School of Visual Arts
State University of New York (multiple campuses)
Fashion Institute of Technology
SUNY Downstate Medical Center
SUNY Empire State College (The Harry Van Arsdale Jr. Center for Labor Studies)
SUNY Maritime College
SUNY State College of Optometry
Studio Maestro
Swedish Institute of Massage Therapy
Technical Career Institute College of Technology
Touro College
Tri-State College of Acupuncture
Union Theological Seminary
Vaughn College of Aeronautics & Technology
Wagner College
Weill Medical College (Cornell University)
Yeshiva University
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law
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Old 07-15-2009, 06:53 PM
 
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It isn't a question of the MOST colleges and universities...the thread topic it "Which city offers the best institutions of higher learning?" I'm thinking New York wins this one.

New York - Yale (#3)...Columbia (#8)...NYU (#33)...Yeshiva (#50)...Fordham (#61)

San Francisco - Stanford (#4)...UC-Berkeley (#21)...University of San Francisco (#127)


I wonder if a better comparison wouldn't be New York and L.A.?

L.A. - California Institute of Technology (#6)...UCLA (#25)...USC (#27)...UC-Irvine (#44)...UC-Santa Barbara (#44)...Pepperdine (#56)...UC-Riverside (#89)

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Old 07-15-2009, 06:54 PM
 
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It isn't a question of the MOST colleges and universities...the thread topic it "Which city offers the best institutions of higher learning?"
I know that I was just posting a list of college and universities that are in NYC.
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:47 PM
 
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It isn't a question of the MOST colleges and universities...the thread topic it "Which city offers the best institutions of higher learning?" I'm thinking New York wins this one.

New York - Yale (#3)...Columbia (#8)...NYU (#33)...Yeshiva (#50)...Fordham (#61)

San Francisco - Stanford (#4)...UC-Berkeley (#21)...University of San Francisco (#127)


I wonder if a better comparison wouldn't be New York and L.A.?

L.A. - California Institute of Technology (#6)...UCLA (#25)...USC (#27)...UC-Irvine (#44)...UC-Santa Barbara (#44)...Pepperdine (#56)...UC-Riverside (#89)
Isn't Yale in Connecticut? You're also missing UCSF (#5 Medical School) UC Hastings College of the Law (#39 Law School)
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Old 07-15-2009, 07:49 PM
 
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Isn't Yale in Connecticut? You're also missing UCSF (#5 Medical School) UC Hastings College of the Law (#39 Law School)
Yes, it's in New Haven. 80 miles away. I don't personally consider it to be an "NYC school" but some people (mainly New Yorkers) do. Also, if you're going to include Stanford with SF you might as well put in Santa Clara, too.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:02 AM
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^ hell, if we're including things 80 miles away, then SF gets to include Sacramento too. Isn't 80 miles kinda far? If SF had been claiming Sacramento schools that are 80 miles away, everyone would be complaining...oh wait, that already happened, with UC Davis...which is only around 60 miles from SF (i wouldn't actually include UC Davis, because it's not in the Bay Area...just making a point). And then some people are complaining about SF including Stanford, which is only 30 miles from SF? right...
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:03 AM
 
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You don't even have to use SF as the starting point since the topic is "Bay Area." Davis is not 60 miles from Fairfield, which I would call the fringe. Plus, UCD was originally the agricultural division of UCB. Also, Santa Cruz is often included in the 11-county Bay Area (as opposed to 9), so toss in UCSC.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:23 AM
 
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Isn't Yale in Connecticut? You're also missing UCSF (#5 Medical School) UC Hastings College of the Law (#39 Law School)
I only listed the schools that are in the top 130 national universities. I did not go through and look at the rankings in every major.

Yale is in New Haven, which is part of the New York-Newark-Bridgeport CSA.
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Old 07-16-2009, 11:25 AM
rah
 
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You don't even have to use SF as the starting point since the topic is "Bay Area." Davis is not 60 miles from Fairfield, which I would call the fringe. Plus, UCD was originally the agricultural division of UCB. Also, Santa Cruz is often included in the 11-county Bay Area (as opposed to 9), so toss in UCSC.
very true. The core of the Bay Area is pretty much everything ringing the Bay...not just SF...and like you said Fairfield is really close to Davis. Vacaville is even closer and that's still the Bay Area too.
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