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View Poll Results: Chicago vs. Philadelphia
Chicago 568 65.21%
Philadelphia 303 34.79%
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Old 10-11-2019, 11:46 PM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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I wish Philly would attract more companies and foreign investment. Philly does have a great location, but I hate to think Philly's most valuable asset is that it's close to NYC and Washington DC.
Welcome to the world of Baltimore.

Both cities forever live in the shadow of their larger "neighbors" despite they themselves being large, divererse independent economies with rich historic cultures
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Old 10-12-2019, 04:19 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Chicago is a far nicer city imo. Some of the 'hoods'in Philadelphia are some of the worst looking I've ever seen. Many of the 'hoods' in Chicago on the other hand still look decent.

Philly 'hood''
https://www.google.com/maps/place/27...!4d-75.1774407

Chicago 'hood'
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7482...7i16384!8i8192
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Old 10-12-2019, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Odenton, MD
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Chicago is a far nicer city imo. Some of the 'hoods'in Philadelphia are some of the worst looking I've ever seen. Many of the 'hoods' in Chicago on the other hand still look decent.

Philly 'hood''
https://www.google.com/maps/place/27...!4d-75.1774407

Chicago 'hood'
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7482...7i16384!8i8192
"Hood" is relative...

An American "hood" might as well be Beverly Hills to some of the slums in South America/Africa or the war torn cites in the Middle east.
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Originally Posted by KoNgFooCj View Post
I wish Philly would attract more companies and foreign investment. Philly does have a great location, but I hate to think Philly's most valuable asset is that it's close to NYC and Washington DC.
Just your luck! The metro is booming with growth and jobs. Look at this report from Foxbusiness (not necessarily my favorite, but hey) https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...assdoor-report

And don't worry, no need to think that about its great location at all. I bet the topic has come up a lot when comparing Philly to Chicago, because it sticks out as a particular asset over Chicago. Many people here also love the history, built urban environment, big city amenities, comprehensive public transportation, thriving sports scene, thriving nightlife, cuisine, and so forth. There are so many assets to this city, it would be silly to think that!
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Chicago is a far nicer city imo. Some of the 'hoods'in Philadelphia are some of the worst looking I've ever seen. Many of the 'hoods' in Chicago on the other hand still look decent.

Philly 'hood''
https://www.google.com/maps/place/27...!4d-75.1774407

Chicago 'hood'
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7482...7i16384!8i8192

Kind of an odd thing to jump to when comparing these two, because unless you live in one of these areas, most people who live elsewhere in the cities have little reason to visit them.
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:28 AM
 
Location: Flyover part of Virginia
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Kind of an odd thing to jump to when comparing these two, because unless you live in one of these areas, most people who live elsewhere in the cities have little reason to visit them.
My point is that overall Chicago is a much cleaner and more well-maintained city.
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Chicago is $900 million in the red and freight training towards bankruptcy. So is the state of Illinois. The city is going to have to raise property taxes which will further exasperate the population decline and tax base shrinkage, or go bankrupt due to not being able to service it's debts. Bankruptcy obviously has it's downsides, but I do think the city should. It probably will stop some major investments from flowing in, but it should slow the decline of the rest of the city.
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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My point is that overall Chicago is a much cleaner and more well-maintained city.
Your point shouldn't hold much weight to anyone.

When picture living somewhere, do you just imagine yourself as a ghetto drug dealer? Maybe that's the type of person you are, but for me a comparsion between which 'hood' is the worst is virtually meaningless. I would imagine that holds true for a vast majority of people.

Anyone you cherry picked the pictures before, I just randomly dropped a pin on the southside on google maps found this lovely street: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7548...7i16384!8i8192


Oh the horror!
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Old 10-12-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Chicago is $900 million in the red and freight training towards bankruptcy. So is the state of Illinois. The city is going to have to raise property taxes which will further exasperate the population decline and tax base shrinkage, or go bankrupt due to not being able to service it's debts. Bankruptcy obviously has it's downsides, but I do think the city should. It probably will stop some major investments from flowing in, but it should slow the decline of the rest of the city.
The quasi-bailout from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania saved Philadelphia from that fate, and fortunately, we had a mayor at that time who took full advantage of the reprieve. The city today might not be as good as it is had Ed Rendell not run it for eight years, with the quasi-bailout occurring as he got started.

Illinois is in no position to toss Chicago a similar lifesaver right now.

I'd also like to address that "better-maintained city" comment. I agree with it, and it points to an interesting compare-and-contrast between the two cities.

Both cities have legendary corruption and machine politics, though Philadelphia experiences spasms of "good government" every now and then (Clark/Dilworth, Michael Nutter, and even Ed Rendell). I tell people that Philadelphia politics resemble those of no other American city as much as they do Chicago's. An Illinois-born-and-bred (Chicago-area) Republican friend of mine who also lives in Philly says both have highly transactional political cultures, and he's right.

The difference, IMO, is that Chicagoans have a history of getting something for their graft.

Chicago: Five new and relocated rapid transit lines and extensions.
Philadelphia: Two out of a planned six, and those two weren't fully built out according to plan.

Chicago: Millennium Park.
Philadelphia: We are going to build that cap over I-95, right?

We did get the more impressive City Hall, but it took us 30 years to build it, and the commission charged with building it was perennially starved of money. Nonetheless, it remains the most expensive government building ever built in this country.

I don't know exactly how Chicago has managed to run off the rails given this history.
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Old 10-12-2019, 08:11 AM
 
Location: Germantown, Philadelphia
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Your point shouldn't hold much weight to anyone.

When picture living somewhere, do you just imagine yourself as a ghetto drug dealer? Maybe that's the type of person you are, but for me a comparsion between which 'hood' is the worst is virtually meaningless. I would imagine that holds true for a vast majority of people.

Anyone you cherry picked the pictures before, I just randomly dropped a pin on the southside on google maps found this lovely street: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7548...7i16384!8i8192


Oh the horror!
I dunno; even there, I think Taggerung has the upper hand in this particular spat.

But in an attempt to even the score, I'll give you this not-so-randomly selected street. It's in my 'hood, two blocks north of the one I live on:

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0472...7i16384!8i8192
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