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Old 05-06-2020, 06:16 AM
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I get the whole population thing, but seriously, Chicago is in the same league with New York more than Milwaukee is with Chicago.
Milwaukee is the one I'd most likely live in, but it's also a bit of an underachiever when it comes to amenities where the other two live up to what you'd expect. But that's what makes Milwaukee, Milwaukee. A pleasant, old-school sort of place.
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Old 05-06-2020, 07:46 AM
 
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I get the whole population thing, but seriously, Chicago is in the same league with New York more than Milwaukee is with Chicago.
Milwaukee is the one I'd most likely live in, but it's also a bit of an underachiever when it comes to amenities where the other two live up to what you'd expect. But that's what makes Milwaukee, Milwaukee. A pleasant, old-school sort of place.
New York's "league" is Paris, London, Tokyo, etc. To think that Chicago belongs there is just as delusional as supposing that Milwaukee is "right up there" with San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, etc. It's really apples and crab apples.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:16 AM
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New York's "league" is Paris, London, Tokyo, etc. To think that Chicago belongs there is just as delusional as supposing that Milwaukee is "right up there" with San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, etc. It's really apples and crab apples.
While not quite there, Chicago is closer to being on par with New York's league than Milwaukee is with those you mentioned. Milwaukee is even further from Chicago. That was the point I was trying to make.
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Old 05-06-2020, 08:49 AM
 
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In terms of global stature, Chicago is closer to NY by a country mile. If NY is a 10, Chicago is like an 8, and Milwaukee is like a 2 or 3.

In terms of urban scale, Chicago's Downtown is somewhere in the middle between NY and Milwakee. Outside of downtown, Chicago is much closer to Milwaukee than NY.
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:15 PM
 
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In terms of global stature, Chicago is closer to NY by a country mile. If NY is a 10, Chicago is like an 8, and Milwaukee is like a 2 or 3.

In terms of urban scale, Chicago's Downtown is somewhere in the middle between NY and Milwaukee. Outside of downtown, Chicago is much closer to Milwaukee than NY.
The Chicago people aren't going to like that last line. I know it is a while ago but back in the 50's and 60's Milwaukee was the 11th largest City and outside of New York City Milwaukee boasted the highest amount of foreign languages spoken outside of New York City. Milwaukee City Hall at the time of its completion, the tallest building in the world until the completion of the Park Row Building, in New York, four years later in 1899.

No Milwaukee isn't on par with New York City or Chicago but hey back in the day we were a heavy weight along with other rust belt cities like Cleveland, Baltimore, St. Louis, Washington, Pittsburgh, Detroit. In a sense we're old money and now cities like Austin, San Antonio and Phoenix are new money. They'll never have our culture or history like ours.

https://www.biggestuscities.com/1960

https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/


https://www.cbs58.com/news/https://www.cbs58.com/news/tallest-timber-tower-in-the-world-to-break-ground-in-milwaukee-this-spring
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Old 05-09-2020, 09:40 PM
 
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New York's "league" is Paris, London, Tokyo, etc. To think that Chicago belongs there is just as delusional as supposing that Milwaukee is "right up there" with San Francisco, Boston, Seattle, etc. It's really apples and crab apples.
The difference is cities are in a bell curve. So there is like 3 cities on par with NYC, like 8 on par with Chicago and like 2400 on par with Milwaukee.

Just looking at US Metros it goes between 1 and 2 is 6 million, between 2 and 3 is about 4 million, between 3 and 4 is 2 million and between 4 and 5 is only .5 million. Then between 22 and 32 is only .5 million.

So on a linear scale Chicago might be as close to New York as Milwaukee is to Houston or SF but cities are not like that.

If you look at Chicago there is 11 cities between double and 1/2 the size of Chicago. There are 49 such cities in the US that are the same to Milwaukee.
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Old 05-09-2020, 10:25 PM
 
Location: Mequon, WI
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Here is Milwaukee's density...


Comparing Chicago to NewYork is like Milwaukee to Chicago.-mke-density-2.png


While our official density is 6,500 per sq mi you can see in most neighborhoods it's very dense. Milwaukee just has a lot of neighborhoods that actually measure a 0 in population density.
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