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The thing is that I do know a lot about it, and most other transit systems in the US (as you saw in my post above). I've never ridden it, but I was simply talking about ridership. I probably should have been more specific instead of simply saying "lightly," but once again I meant that it is underutilized and has low-ridership compared to other multi-line, heavy rail systems in the Northeast and elsewhere and that it failed to transform Atlanta from a car-dependent city. Please feel free to tell me which part of this is incorrect.
Only one sentence in my entire post about MARTA was hearsay. If you want I can post ridership and other statistics.
The DC (WMATA) Metro isa Northeastern transit system. I consider DC, MD, and the suburban/urban counties in NoVa to be part of the NE (although VA is decidedly Southern), but that is I guess a difference of opinion that's been discussed in many other threads. Baltimore (MTA Metro-Subway, MTA Light Rail, and MARC) and Newark (PATH, NJT Commuter Rail, Newark Light Rail), also have systems.
1. MARTA ridership: 250,000 riders/day
2. Every American city is car-dependent. That's the part of your sentence that you aren't saying.
3. You may consider D.C. to be Northeastern, but no one else does - including the Census Bureau.
especially Manhattan. It is BURDEN to own a car in Manhattan.
Manhattan isn't a city, it's a section of a city. It isn't the same story throughout the New York metropolitan area...it's is still a car-dependent city like the rest of the U.S.
Manhattan isn't a city, it's a section of a city. It isn't the same story throughout the New York metropolitan area...it's is still a car-dependent city like the rest of the U.S.
Yeah, I learned to drive while living there, but most times I left the car parked in the driveway and WALKED. lol I did a LOT of walking when I lived in Queens. Driving was absurd. Try driving round and round and round for 45 minutes trying to find a parking space. OR taking bus after bus and waiting and waiting for it come. I found I could walk there faster.
My daughter's school was just under the limit for a bus. I WALKED her back and forth to school everyday. No, I didn't drive her. Driving was a NIGHTMARE in Queens. My husband used to complain that I had a brand new car and all it did was sit in the driveway.
Driving as horrible, and mass transporation not much better.
Yeah, I learned to drive while living there, but most times I left the car parked in the driveway and WALKED. lol I did a LOT of walking when I lived in Queens. Driving was absurd. Try driving round and round and round for 45 minutes trying to find a parking space. OR taking bus after bus and waiting and waiting for it come. I found I could walk there faster.
My daughter's school was just under the limit for a bus. I WALKED her back and forth to school everyday. No, I didn't drive her. Driving was a NIGHTMARE in Queens. My husband used to complain that I had a brand new car and all it did was sit in the driveway.
Driving as horrible, and mass transporation not much better.
Again, you do realize that your situation is not indicative of the lifestyles of most residents in the NYC metro area? It's still a car-oriented city, just like every other U.S. city. A higher percentage of residents use transit, but the majority still drive.
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Again, you do realize that your situation is not indicative of the lifestyles of most residents in the NYC metro area? It's still a car-oriented city, just like every other U.S. city. A higher percentage of residents use transit, but the majority still drive.
Actually, having a car is more of a burden in most of NYC. I had a car in Queens and it was a real pain trying to park it. It isn't fun driving anywhere in the city. Most people don't own cars. It isn't a car-oriented city at all. It has the best mass transit in the country; there's a reason for that-- not many people own cars. You never lived in NYC, so how can you say it's car oriented?
2. Every American city is car-dependent. That's the part of your sentence that you aren't saying.
3. You may consider D.C. to be Northeastern, but no one else does - including the Census Bureau.
1. Yeah, I knew that a long while back....
2. Well yeah, I meant relative to other cities, in this case the NE. You won't find a city in this country (except maybe NYC) where most people don't drive. Look at the quote I posted from Forbes.
3. This has been debated to no end, but I'll just say this:
-The vast majority of DC residents (well over 80%) count it as Northeastern according to a UNC Center for the South poll taken 15-20 years ago (a modern poll would probably be closer to unanimous). An (obviously unscientific) poll carried out on this board with a significant number of responses came to the same conclusion.
-Virtually every government agency and private organization except for the CB (which uses the Old South definition prior to the Civil War, which I would agree DC falls under), classifies DC (and MD/DE) as NE or Mid-Atlantic.
Again, you do realize that your situation is not indicative of the lifestyles of most residents in the NYC metro area? It's still a car-oriented city, just like every other U.S. city. A higher percentage of residents use transit, but the majority still drive.
driving in NYC, especially MANHATTAN, where even the COST is prohibiitive. Ever hear of alternative side of the street parking????? You want to own a car and have to move it every day? You know what the cost is to put a car in a parking garage?
NYC is NOT car oriented. The SUBURBS, yes. Inside the city, NO.
Again, you do realize that your situation is not indicative of the lifestyles of most residents in the NYC metro area? It's still a car-oriented city, just like every other U.S. city. A higher percentage of residents use transit, but the majority still drive.
I agree, public transit only works where its available, not everyone stays in NYC within reach of a bus, train, etc. what if you want to go somewhere like a mall somewhere outside of NYC where mass transit would be a burden or non-existent. I live in Queens and its a burden not having a car (that'll change soon though).
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NYC is not car dependent
