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Chattanooga has had a lot of growth & development lately and definitely belongs in tier 4. This is a case where metro numbers can be deceiving. Chatt is hard up against the Cumberland plateau and it's major satellite city, Cleveland, is just enough removed to be it's own metro.
Greenville is the one I think belongs in tier 5. It is a wonderful place with great growth but just recently outgrowing its small town roots.
The most obvious omission is Little Rock, along with Savannah, and Lexington. I would place LR in tier 4, and Sav., and Lex. in high 5. Wilmington, tier 5 for sure, with its southern neighbor Myrtle Beach, creeping up towards 5. Ft. Worth I've discovered, is the 15th largest city in America, with almost 900,000 peeps. I'm guessing if I lived there, and people didn't differentiate us from Dallas, that would **** me off. Somewhere mid to low tier 2, to the top of 3. Southwest Florida, from Bradenton, through Sarasota, Fort Myers, and Naples, how does the MSA, CSA work? Do they all line up together, or separately?, I don't know.
Fort Lauderdale, seems connected to Miami, but different to me. I mean, all of South Florida is connected down the East Coast, but it's been 16 years since I've been down there. I know the area has changed a lot since then.
The most obvious omission is Little Rock, along with Savannah, and Lexington. I would place LR in tier 4, and Sav., and Lex. in high 5. Wilmington, tier 5 for sure, with its southern neighbor Myrtle Beach, creeping up towards 5. Ft. Worth I've discovered, is the 15th largest city in America, with almost 900,000 peeps. I'm guessing if I lived there, and people didn't differentiate us from Dallas, that would **** me off. Somewhere mid to low tier 2, to the top of 3. Southwest Florida, from Bradenton, through Sarasota, Fort Myers, and Naples, how does the MSA, CSA work? Do they all line up together, or separately?, I don't know.
Fort Lauderdale, seems connected to Miami, but different to me. I mean, all of South Florida is connected down the East Coast, but it's been 16 years since I've been down there. I know the area has changed a lot since then.
Ft. Worth is part of DFW, no way it should be separate here.
Chattanooga does not belong in the same tier as Knoxville, one clearly has a greater standing within Tennessee. Chattanooga also is not on the same tier as Little Rock or The South Carolina Triumvirate...
Ft. Worth is part of DFW, no way it should be separate here.
Sure it's part of DFW, but Fort Worth has its own identity and sphere of influence within the region as a primary city of the Metroplex. Fort Worth anchors its own metropolitan division of 2.5 million within the Metroplex.
Sure it's part of DFW, but Fort Worth has its own identity and sphere of influence within the region as a primary city of the Metroplex. Fort Worth anchors its own metropolitan division of 2.5 million within the Metroplex.
For multi-core metros where there is clearly a dominant city, I think that it's to be expected that the second city does everything that it can to exert its own identity. In this case, one can make an argument that Ft. Worth is the largest "overlooked" city in the entire country because it lives in the shadow of Dallas. Imagine being a city proper of nearly 900,000 and having to fight for visibility.
The conundrum for the Metroplex is that they are only "larger" than Houston when they are unified. In effect, Dallas' pecking-order position in the state is dependent on Ft. Worth's significant numbers.
From a regional perspective, Dallas-Ft Worth arguably sits atop tier one in the South, but would likely drop to 4th without Ft. Worth's inclusion. In turn, Ft. Worth alone could make an argument for being on the top of Tier 2.
For multi-core metros where there is clearly a dominant city, I think that it's to be expected that the second city does everything that it can to exert its own identity. In this case, one can make an argument that Ft. Worth is the largest "overlooked" city in the entire country because it lives in the shadow of Dallas. Imagine being a city proper of nearly 900,000 and having to fight for visibility.
The conundrum for the Metroplex is that they are only "larger" than Houston when they are unified. In effect, Dallas' pecking-order position in the state is dependent on Ft. Worth's significant numbers.
From a regional perspective, Dallas-Ft Worth arguably sits atop tier one in the South, but would likely drop to 4th without Ft. Worth's inclusion. In turn, Ft. Worth alone could make an argument for being on the top of Tier 2.
We agree on premise, which is why I view Fort Worth and Dallas separately here. However, without Fort Worth, here is a realistic snapshot of the Dallas MD:
By most significant measures, Dallas is a far more productive city than Miami, with a smaller population. Miami is the city pulling in the rear of The Big 4, by a pretty obvious margin...
I'd also disagree that Fort Worth has a case for the top of Tier 4. Charlotte has pretty much solidified that position, but even if that's debatable to some, Fort Worth has to contend with Austin before even considering it's out of state competition. Fort Worth is definitely in Tier 2. It isn't at the top, though...
We agree on premise, which is why I view Fort Worth and Dallas separately here. However, without Fort Worth, here is a realistic snapshot of the Dallas MD:
By most significant measures, Dallas is a far more productive city than Miami, with a smaller population. Miami is the city pulling in the rear of The Big 4, by a pretty obvious margin...
I'd also disagree that Fort Worth has a case for the top of Tier 4. Charlotte has pretty much solidified that position, but even if that's debatable to some, Fort Worth has to contend with Austin before even considering it's out of state competition. Fort Worth is definitely in Tier 2. It isn't at the top, though...
My point is that Ft Worth inclusion elevates Dallas' profile, as do all second and third cities do for the main/dominant city in a multicore metro.
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