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Old 12-30-2012, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Georgetown, TX and The World
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The book I have from 2010 specifically uses the word "tier". In fact, in your link, Q#9 refers to tiers, e.g.

9. What are tiers, and why are some schools listed in tiers and not numerically ranked? U.S. News publishes the numbered rankings of approximately the top 75 percent of schools in each of the categories. The remaining schools are placed in the bottom, or Second Tier, based on their overall score in their category, and listed alphabetically.

So it does seem that they have changed "tier 3" to "tier 2". Mea Culpa!
U.S. News stopped using the Tier system for the 2011 rankings. Not sure why but now if its ranked its Tier 1. Not ranked is Tier 2 no such thing as Tier 3. I suppose it is more fair if you think about using cats over Tiers.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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U.S. News stopped using the Tier system for the 2011 rankings. Not sure why but now if its ranked its Tier 1. Not ranked is Tier 2 no such thing as Tier 3. I suppose it is more fair if you think about using cats over Tiers.
So why do they use the word "tier" in your link?
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Georgetown, TX and The World
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So why do they use the word "tier" in your link?
It's not used the same way they used tiers in the past. They make no reference to tiers for rankings now. Just a number rank for that category. If it is ranked by a number it is considered Tier 1. Which is the only real Tier since Tier 2 is unranked schools. Just go to the U.S. News Rankings website and look around. Also 2010 is about 3 years ago ranking wise so you might want to start using the current system.

Category's now not Tiers
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandre...leges/rankings
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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It's not used the same way they used tiers in the past. They make no reference to tiers for rankings now. Just a number rank for that category. If it is ranked by a number it is considered Tier 1. Which is the only real Tier since Tier 2 is unranked schools. Just go to the U.S. News Rankings website and look around. Also 2010 is about 3 years ago ranking wise so you might want to start using the current system.
The rankings I posted are from the 2013 list. I checked. I was originally using the word tier in a different sense, like "level" or something. It was a poor word choice.

Wittenburg remains in Ohio nevertheless.
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Old 12-30-2012, 08:36 AM
 
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The rankings I posted are from the 2013 list. I checked. I was originally using the word tier in a different sense, like "level" or something. It was a poor word choice.

Wittenburg remains in Ohio nevertheless.
I think the cat system works better anyway. Wittenburg might be a awesome regional school so is it fair to rank it against heavy hitters on a national level or have some complex tier system that makes rankings confusing. Just makes everything simple and it flows better.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:48 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Muhlenberg is a not-too-shabby Lutheran liberal arts college in Allentown. Though I wouldn't recommend anyone pay the hefty sticker price, it could be worth applying to in the hope of receiving some kind of merit scholarship.

That said, the school is 30+% Jewish, and heavily draws its student body from the lower half of the BosWash megalopolis, making it feel a lot different from most other notable Lutheran schools. But despite the seemingly incongruous demographics, it's still very committed to its Lutheran roots and may be a good opportunity for your daughter to get the education she desires while still being exposed to a number of different social perspectives.

Muhlenberg is a solid school. We are originally from L.I. and many people from that area are include MU in their list of schools.

She would be very comfortable with those demographics.

What is of concern when it comes to some of the deep mid-West Lutheran schools is a lack of diversity. My daughter is Asian and a North Easterner. We are politically liberal.
ELCA is a liberal denomination, but that means there are quite a few ultra conservative members who are welcomed because ...well, we are liberal.

Just as our congregations vary, so do our colleges.
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Old 12-30-2012, 04:53 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I think Kent State would be a great fit. It's hard to believe, but their fashion programs are renowned and attract students from across the country. Plus it's close to home and public. With her grades, she could probably get a scholarship and go there for next to nothing.

My sister goes to Kent and I spend a good amount of time there. It's a nice college town with a liberal, diverse student body. I know people who graduated from their fashion programs and now have great jobs in NYC. They are good at helping students find internships and since the program is so respected, there's a great alumni base for networking.

YO, didn't ignore your post at all. She is looking at several Ohio state schools, and Kent is one of them. I am once again surprised by how many have very decent fashion programs including study abroad and, in one case, a year at FIT and a semester abroad!

I am so impressed with Ohio's state school system.
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:57 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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Could someone rank the top 20 Lutheran Colleges?
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Old 12-31-2012, 09:38 AM
 
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Could someone rank the top 20 Lutheran Colleges?
Based on what?
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:23 AM
 
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Could someone rank the top 20 Lutheran Colleges?
Don't think there's a ranking listed but if you haven't, but am guessing/hoping you have, check out lutherancolleges.org | A Group of Colleges that Has Faith in Your Future. Information on all of them is available there.
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