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What about dyslexia+dyscalculia individuals?
Should we design a college curriculum for them to pass? Or just admit they are mentally challenged and do not belong in college?
This is stupid, saying that kids with dyslexia and dyscalculia (which HS teachers brought up in discussions about my math ability but I've never been officially 'diagnosed') can't write papers or do math and shouldn't try. Just because those students have more obstacles to overcome that doesn't mean we give up on giving them a decent education. I promise you those students don't swim through high school by avoiding those major subjects, but they're given extra assistance. Every decent college has a Disabilities Office of some sort to accommodate students who need things like extra tutoring or extended testing time. In fact plenty of those students in the status quo get through normal high school AND college curriculums without just bypassing those subjects.
I by no means am an expert or even aware of dyscalculia, but I wonder if it isn't an attempt to cover for the horrible math pedagogy in this country. After being a STEM teacher, I'm of the thinking that we're deliberately trying to make math illiterates. The text books are, for the most part, trash, they don't tie in with earlier ideas and concepts. We teach subject individually, again, no tie in between earlier concepts or subjects, e.g., how does algebra and geometry work in a 2-d plane, it isn't that hard to understand but only if it's actually taught, which it isn't, or the concept of a pure number, which again, if it is taught, is extremely informative and easy to understand, but is never talked about, despite its importance. It's no wonder people hate math, it is taught so incoherently....
This is stupid, saying that kids with dyslexia and dyscalculia (which HS teachers brought up in discussions about my math ability but I've never been officially 'diagnosed') can't write papers or do math and shouldn't try. Just because those students have more obstacles to overcome that doesn't mean we give up on giving them a decent education. I promise you those students don't swim through high school by avoiding those major subjects, but they're given extra assistance. Every decent college has a Disabilities Office of some sort to accommodate students who need things like extra tutoring or extended testing time. In fact plenty of those students in the status quo get through normal high school AND college curriculums without just bypassing those subjects.
The OP in this thread is trying to argue that a student should be able to graduate from college without passing math. If dyscalcula (or whatever its called) is a true disability then students should get assistance in overcoming their disability, not an exemption from math.
The OP in this thread is trying to argue that a student should be able to graduate from college without passing math. If dyscalcula (or whatever its called) is a true disability then students should get assistance in overcoming their disability, not an exemption from math.
I actually have dyscalculia. The worst part is, they give you a special education plan called an IEP, which in my case resulted in taking prealgebra as a freshman. However, colleges aren't required to accept your IEP.
Therefore, college students either have to scramble and find tutors or attend schools that don't require math. No one else I know has been diagnosed with dyscalculia. As a friend noted, it's not like you'll be using anything beyond fifth grade math in the real world. BUT the schools added that as a requirement.
I had always believed that all schools asked for math, but this isn't the case.
I by no means am an expert or even aware of dyscalculia, but I wonder if it isn't an attempt to cover for the horrible math pedagogy in this country. After being a STEM teacher, I'm of the thinking that we're deliberately trying to make math illiterates. The text books are, for the most part, trash, they don't tie in with earlier ideas and concepts. We teach subject individually, again, no tie in between earlier concepts or subjects, e.g., how does algebra and geometry work in a 2-d plane, it isn't that hard to understand but only if it's actually taught, which it isn't, or the concept of a pure number, which again, if it is taught, is extremely informative and easy to understand, but is never talked about, despite its importance. It's no wonder people hate math, it is taught so incoherently....
If we have people who have dyslexia, how is the number version a cover? I really am not able to do advanced math equations. It's complicated. The counselor and math teacher at my high school pointed out that I seem to have memory loss. They would show me how to do a problem several times, but I would always forget.
If we have people who have dyslexia, how is the number version a cover? I really am not able to do advanced math equations. It's complicated. The counselor and math teacher at my high school pointed out that I seem to have memory loss. They would show me how to do a problem several times, but I would always forget.
We don't tell kids who have dyslexia that they don't have to read.
We don't tell kids who have dyslexia that they don't have to read.
I didn't read the rest of the thread, was that referred to somewhere back?
That isn't what they tell people who have dyscalculia either, though. You are required to take math in K-12 and even afterwards unless you manage to find a school that doesn't ask for math courses.
If you can't pass a basic algebra class you don't deserve a BA. We are not talking difficult math. College Algebra is not difficult. If a person is intellectually inclined and academically motivated that person should be able to muster up a C in Algebra. A person just needs to PASS. They don't need to get an A.
They don't even need a C. Many schools allow one D on a transcript.
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