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There are no undergrad levels of PT (physical therapy) or PA (Physician's Assistant). These are graduate programs. An athletic training degree will not fulfil the requirements for PT school. See below: Curriculum | Athletic Training | Hofstra University
Do note some courses CAN be taken at a CC. In fact, only anat and phys, and upper division science elective courses can NOT be taken at a CC.
To Swimmom2, both PT programs and PA programs are very competitive. PA programs in particular have way more applicants than slots available, and many students far exceed the minimum requirements.
I know but this is what he wants to do...he would be hopefully heading to Stockton or UMDJ here in Jersey again its 3 years
so time will tell
he will hold an Exercise Science Degree BS, same degree as the one he would get from Rutgers when we met with the school..
There are no undergrad levels of PT (physical therapy) or PA (Physician's Assistant). These are graduate programs. An athletic training degree will not fulfil the requirements for PT school. See below: Curriculum | Athletic Training | Hofstra University
Do note some courses CAN be taken at a CC. In fact, only anat and phys, and upper division science elective courses can NOT be taken at a CC.
To Swimmom2, both PT programs and PA programs are very competitive. PA programs in particular have way more applicants than slots available, and many students far exceed the minimum requirements.
Athletic Training very much is a feeder program to PT schools, many PT schools have a combined AT/PT program where you get your UG and PT doctorate in a shorter time, similar to the 7 year UG/Med school programs.....
Athletic Training very much is a feeder program to PT schools, many PT schools have a combined AT/PT program where you get your UG and PT doctorate in a shorter time, similar to the 7 year UG/Med school programs.....
Maybe you are confusing "Athletic Training" with "Exercise Science", which can be a pre-PT program if you choose the right courses.
Advising
**The Exercise Science Program Pre-professional Track is specifically designed for students interested in going on to graduate school for a career that uses the clinical application of exercise or activity - such as physical therapy, cardiac rehabilitation, etc.**
The CU link is about their Sports Medicine Clinic, not an academic program.
Maybe you are confusing "Athletic Training" with "Exercise Science", which can be a pre-PT program if you choose the right courses.
Advising
**The Exercise Science Program Pre-professional Track is specifically designed for students interested in going on to graduate school for a career that uses the clinical application of exercise or activity - such as physical therapy, cardiac rehabilitation, etc.**
The CU link is about their Sports Medicine Clinic, not an academic program.
You have no idea what athletic training is do you??? I am not confusing the two....the point of the links was to look at the initials after their names--most of the PT's are also ATC's....
Ask your daughter, she will know....and understand....
My student loan debt will be about $35,000 when I graduate in about a month and compared to a lot of friends I'm not nearly as much in the hole. I started out a a state school where I dormed and if I continued there I would have racked up over $60k. As I'm approaching graduation I'm happy I ended up transferring to another state college where I could commute and I've saved at least $25k by making that decision. In the fall I will be attending grad school at another college close to home and it should bring my total to about $45,000 when it's all said in done.
I have a friend who is currently at $150k and it's mind boggling. They attend a private liberal arts school and have lived on campus all four years. I know they received a small amount of money, but clearly it didn't help all that much. If a college like this didn't offer me a good amount of money, even if it were my dream school, I'd forget about the whole thing. I will give them a little credit for taking some courses at the local cc to help with the cost, but I really fear for them. I also have a friend who attended UPenn and owes less than me on account of scholarship money. I think too many people turn a blind eye towards college finances and stick the idea in the back of their minds because they're not paying them in that instance, but once those six months are up it hits them hard.
My student loan debt will be about $35,000 when I graduate in about a month and compared to a lot of friends I'm not nearly as much in the hole. I started out a a state school where I dormed and if I continued there I would have racked up over $60k. As I'm approaching graduation I'm happy I ended up transferring to another state college where I could commute and I've saved at least $25k by making that decision. In the fall I will be attending grad school at another college close to home and it should bring my total to about $45,000 when it's all said in done.
I have a friend who is currently at $150k and it's mind boggling. They attend a private liberal arts school and have lived on campus all four years. I know they received a small amount of money, but clearly it didn't help all that much. If a college like this didn't offer me a good amount of money, even if it were my dream school, I'd forget about the whole thing. I will give them a little credit for taking some courses at the local cc to help with the cost, but I really fear for them. I also have a friend who attended UPenn and owes less than me on account of scholarship money. I think too many people turn a blind eye towards college finances and stick the idea in the back of their minds because they're not paying them in that instance, but once those six months are up it hits them hard.
You still have to look past the extremes though...average student loan dept nationally is still only $30,000 and while it seems like a big number, compared to the average starting salary of just under $50,000, it really not that big of a deal.
My question for you is, why are you going right to grad school? Is it necessary?
Cost of living in the "south" is less too so that $30,000 goes a lot farther than $50,000 in NYC.
Well, that is why they are called 'averages" the $30,000 salary in Alabama averages out the $70,000 salary in NYC. You can also buy a house for $100,000 in most places in the south, a nice house, but you can't even get an apartment for that house payment in NYC so making $100,000 in Mississippi isn't as crucial. "Lost salary" only really matters if you can't pay your bills.
Taxes and housing are the costs that vary most significantly, but other significant costs (like an automobile's price) are relatively static and others (food, gasoline, utilities) will probably vary less than taxes and housing. You'll also have additional costs in some areas (road tolls/parking fees in the NE, but none in the rural South). I'm in the Boston suburbs and the cost of food is essentially the same as back home in rural TN where salaries are far, far less for equivalent paying jobs, but most other things are somewhat more expensive to a lot more expensive.
Whether this is a wash for you is a case-by-case decision, but people in these suburbs seem to be doing a lot better than people back home, where poverty is obvious and many are on the dole in some fashion.
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What's the difference? If young people are making significantly more with a degree than without a degree it might take 4 years to break even in a lower pay area. That earning differential stays with you for your ENTIRE LIFE not just for your first job. It still makes sense for people to get a degree if they can take on reasonable amounts of debt (let's say no more than they expect to make their first year working). It might not make sense to accumulate huge amounts of debt but some debt is not the end of the world.
The Fortune 500 client I worked for back in TN hired chemical, mechanical, and electrical engineers out of college for $34-$37k. One year at a school like Vanderbilt runs more than this purely on sticker price. A person could rack up $35k of debt in two years at a state school like UT-Knoxville easily, assuming they were not working or living at home (a worst case scenario)
Even for a "marketable" major like engineering, the degree is not worth it living in TN because debt (even if managed relatively well) is likely to be far higher than starting salaries. The amount of debt one will take on to get that engineering degree is going to be a tremendous burden on such a low salary.
Some areas have few jobs where a college education is required or even useful. In such a situation, the payscales of everyone are pushed down and the degree is not that useful. Granted, an engineer has a higher potential for increasing income than a sociology major, but the same problems are evident with both degree holders.
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but this is what he wants to do...he would be hopefully heading to Stockton or UMDJ here in Jersey again its 3 years
