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Old 03-12-2014, 11:30 AM
 
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I guess some states are more "territorial" than others.

The reason for posting my thought was that someone said that overpaying for a UG isn't important. Statistically speaking, a state subsidized program is a massive savings for graduate degrees like a MD or dentist. Hence, a global statement wasn't true in states like MN. In fact, it's advantageous to stay in MN or WI or IA and go to their top state school versus an Ivy if you want the best priced med school (and going back to your home state like IA, MN, or WI). Obviously this isn't the case in CO.

To show that there isn't a global rule, my DS will have a competitive advantage for getting into med school because he is out of state and at a service academy not so far away from you. It's very smart to due your homework ahead of time. I went to the source (UofMN dental school) and was surprised to learn the inside and unpublished scoop. Tuition cost isn't a factor for my DS because it's "free".
Do kids that maintain their home residence have a preference though too? Of those she listed, how many are MN students vs graduates of MN colleges==the out of state schools--how many are MN kids to start--graduated from a MN high school?

Looking at costs--the least expensive place for an out of state dental kid looks like it's Mississippi
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Old 03-12-2014, 02:07 PM
 
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Do kids that maintain their home residence have a preference though too? Of those she listed, how many are MN students vs graduates of MN colleges==the out of state schools--how many are MN kids to start--graduated from a MN high school?

Looking at costs--the least expensive place for an out of state dental kid looks like it's Mississippi
I think they do have a preference. The flagship state school pulls their unfairshare. That was a 2009 conversation so I would be guessing. But I she told me anything that I wanted to know.

As a side note, the UofMN dental school as well as their vet school is famous for declining a student the 1st year. I assume that happens at other spots as well. My DD got shot down from the UofMN so she went out of state (OUCH!). A fellow student with less experience who got turned down to every dental college last year yet THIS YEAR she got in at three spots. She chose the UofMN (costs).

Out of state dental school is a massive expense. But my daughter wasn't a fan of the UofMN. We are paying $75K year now. Did I say "OUCH"! Over $92K with living expenses. I forked over the whole amount this year and it hurts like H_ll!
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:52 PM
 
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I think they do have a preference. The flagship state school pulls their unfairshare. That was a 2009 conversation so I would be guessing. But I she told me anything that I wanted to know.

As a side note, the UofMN dental school as well as their vet school is famous for declining a student the 1st year. I assume that happens at other spots as well. My DD got shot down from the UofMN so she went out of state (OUCH!). A fellow student with less experience who got turned down to every dental college last year yet THIS YEAR she got in at three spots. She chose the UofMN (costs).

Out of state dental school is a massive expense. But my daughter wasn't a fan of the UofMN. We are paying $75K year now. Did I say "OUCH"! Over $92K with living expenses. I forked over the whole amount this year and it hurts like H_ll!
Nice she has you to cover those costs...we will help some, maybe with living expenses, but the rest is on her .
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:46 PM
 
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I think they do have a preference. The flagship state school pulls their unfairshare. That was a 2009 conversation so I would be guessing. But I she told me anything that I wanted to know.

As a side note, the UofMN dental school as well as their vet school is famous for declining a student the 1st year. I assume that happens at other spots as well. My DD got shot down from the UofMN so she went out of state (OUCH!). A fellow student with less experience who got turned down to every dental college last year yet THIS YEAR she got in at three spots. She chose the UofMN (costs).

Out of state dental school is a massive expense. But my daughter wasn't a fan of the UofMN. We are paying $75K year now. Did I say "OUCH"! Over $92K with living expenses. I forked over the whole amount this year and it hurts like H_ll!
That seems to be an urban legend. I've heard it about many colleges, in many health professions. I can see no reason why a student would not be acceptable one year, and acceptable the next. They say that about physical therapy school too, but most of my daughter's friends got in the first year they tried, some to multiple schools.
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:04 PM
 
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That seems to be an urban legend. I've heard it about many colleges, in many health professions. I can see no reason why a student would not be acceptable one year, and acceptable the next. They say that about physical therapy school too, but most of my daughter's friends got in the first year they tried, some to multiple schools.
Many students that get rejected the first year spend that next year beefing up their application so it make perfect sense that they get accepted the next year...

I've never heard about that happening in PT school though....
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Old 03-12-2014, 06:54 PM
 
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Many students that get rejected the first year spend that next year beefing up their application so it make perfect sense that they get accepted the next year...

I've never heard about that happening in PT school though....
Well, you obviously haven't had a kid applying to PT school then.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:02 PM
 
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Well, you obviously haven't had a kid applying to PT school then.
No, just a lot of friends that are PT's already...
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:10 PM
 
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No, just a lot of friends that are PT's already...
So are my daughter and her friends, now. If your friends are middle-aged or older, say over 40, it's changed a lot since they went to school. A doctorate is now the degree required for entry into the profession.
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:19 PM
 
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So are my daughter and her friends, now. If your friends are middle-aged or older, say over 40, it's changed a lot since they went to school. A doctorate is now the degree required for entry into the profession.
whatever.....
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Old 03-12-2014, 07:22 PM
 
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whatever.....
Whatever, indeed!

From the professional PT association:

All PT education programs have transitioned to the DPT degree, except one. Both degrees currently prepare students to be eligible for the PT license examination in all 50 states. To maintain or be granted accreditation, programs will be required to award the DPT degree by 2015 and will have until 2017 to come into compliance with this decision.
Physical Therapist (PT) Education Overview
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