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Old 11-10-2010, 04:46 PM
 
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Thank you. Here's a little lesson in persuasion:

1)Put up or shut up. Present some facts instead of the same complaint ad nauseum.

2)Don't write a wall of text. No one reads it and people immediately think you're annoying. Think soundbite.



If you have real evidence about Colorado incomes, I'd like to see it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:12 PM
 
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Jazzlover, Colorado has more industries than you mentioned.

Are you trying to say people can not make a good living in Colorado?

What is the objective of your replies?
From what I have observed, it seems like the objective of his posts is to stop people from moving to Colorado. My guess is that he's probably worried about it becoming "overcrowded". Therefore, he greatly exaggerates Colorado's cost of living and supposed lack of jobs. This is not good because newcomers to this board looking for genuine information, instead get nonsensical rants about how it's nearly "impossible" to make a good living in Colorado.

What "jazzlover" doesn't realize is that his attempts to stop people from moving to Colorado (if that is truly his objective) are futile.

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Old 11-10-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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Thank you. Here's a little lesson in persuasion:

1)Put up or shut up. Present some facts instead of the same complaint ad nauseum.

2)Don't write a wall of text. No one reads it and people immediately think you're annoying. Think soundbite.



If you have real evidence about Colorado incomes, I'd like to see it.
LOL, your chances of getting any real facts from him are almost nil.
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Old 11-10-2010, 05:45 PM
 
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From what I have observed, it seems like the objective of his posts is to stop people from moving to Colorado. My guess is that he's probably worried about it becoming "overcrowded". Therefore, he greatly exaggerates Colorado's cost of living and supposed lack of jobs. This is not good because newcomers to this board looking for genuine information, instead get nonsensical rants about how it's nearly "impossible" to make a good living in Colorado.

What "jazzlover" doesn't realize is that his attempts to stop people from moving to Colorado (if that is truly his objective) are futile.
I guess you two are on opposite sides of the fence. If either of you produced complete evidence, one of you would be proved right.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:28 PM
 
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I guess you two are on opposite sides of the fence. If either of you produced complete evidence, one of you would be proved right.
I have nothing to prove. I am simply saying that Colorado is a state just like any other in the USA. It has expensive areas and less expensive areas. It is experiencing a job shortage just like all the states in the USA are right now. There's nothing extraordinary about living or making a living in Colorado.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:38 PM
 
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I would say it depends where you live in Colorado and what you do for living. Pueblo, yeah (low income) no industry, mostly mexican, un-educated hispanics. Not a lot of BIG business.

Denver Metro - if you've live here and actually have seen the property values (in a good area - not talking the dark side of Aurora) in a down economy? Then you will know that people will have to have the $'s to live in nice area. You can't get a decent 4 bedroom house in a good neighborhood for less than $400K. Denver City - Bonnie Brea, Observatory Park - new house on a scraped lot....$1.5M +, Washington Park $1M plus. The suburbs - too many to list have average property prices at $800K or more. So, people have to be able to afford the housing. Not to mention all of the little golf courses around town with giant houses squeezed on a tiny lot with outrageous HOA fees. If you live here, you will see that there are numerous people with money. And we didn't even get into the mountain towns...people with second homes.. I'm glad per capita Colorado didn't make the list...I lived in LA - most people lease their Mercedes (they really can't afford) and work three jobs to pay rent (do you call that making a good living?). There are numerous people in IT and the Medical field in Colorado. The financial sector use to be big, but busted in 2008. I am in IT and I work with people who have a six figure incomes x2. Two doctors live down the street from me. So, I guess it depends on what you call a "good living". From my standpoint, looking around at all the $1M plus houses on golf courses and BMW/AUDI/Mercedes Dealerships (nothing compared to LA though) someone is making the $'s. Me I am just average...... but average means I can afford a $400k minimum house payment. So go figure. You can only have so many doctors and IT people....so there are other professions making up the difference. Me, I am a Sr. IT Financial Analyst - so I don't do bad either - and in down economy I have at least 2 recruiters calling me a month. So, it just depends upon what you can do.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:46 PM
 
Location: Arvada, CO
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Mquest123, judging by your threads/posts on the California forums, you won't like Colorado either.
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Old 11-10-2010, 09:59 PM
 
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You can't get a decent 4 bedroom house in a good neighborhood for less than $400K.
I look online and see lots of 4 bedroom houses selling in the suburbs for under $300k.
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Old 11-10-2010, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Considering I do some of that type of economic research as part of my work, I do believe that I know what I'm talking about. Sorry if it's an "inconvenient truth" for you.

(And, if you are who I think you are, you are still writing opinions about a state that you do not live in, and have only visited once or twice . . . )
But not everything in terms of wanting to live in a state has to do with economics or taxes. If it did, then we'd all be on the Mississippi bayou.
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Old 11-11-2010, 12:27 AM
 
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2)Don't write a wall of text. No one reads it and people immediately think you're annoying. Think soundbite.



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Speak for yourself. I personally liked reading jazzlover's "wall of text".
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