"As expected, Senate committee passes Colorado civil unions bill" (Denver: condo, law)

[Prodigal Native]

Originally Posted by Josseppie

Thanks. I am 39 and I am told I can party more then college guys lol

At 41 I recently discovered I can still party like I did in my mid-twenties!

It did, however, take three days to recover which I do NOT recall being the case.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by phetaroi

Keep in mind that disgust is in the eye of the beholder.

Dog excrement on the side walk is probably beautiful to some people.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by GoneNative

At a percentage, I think you're far more likely in Colorado to have a decent, church-going family than either a same-sex couple or a marijuana-smoking person as your neighbor. That's especially true in Denver's suburbs and El Paso County.

Thanks for your input.

[Bideshi]

Originally Posted by dude_reino

The destruction of the traditional family is far more influenced by separated parents of their biological children, not by two parents (gay or straight) raising a family together.

I agree on the "more" part, but the gay marriage trend is absolutely part of societal disintegration.

[RedSoxFanGoingWest]

Originally Posted by Wardendresden

Bideshi is not representative of everyone who claims to be a Christian. As a Christian, while I do not encourage gay marriage, it's not my business to pass judgment or damn people to hell for wanting it either. Just as it's not my business to pass judgment on those who have had an abortion.

My concern is not even that GOD would pass judgment on those people. My concern is what kind of judgment God will pass on me. And since churches have no problem letting fat people (me-gluttony) or divorced people come through their doors, I don't really get why many won't welcome gay people or abortionists or anyone else who wishes to come. God is for everyone. God is the one who passes judgment on the good, the bad, and the ugly!!

RedSox, accusing conservatives and Christians in general of trampling over human rights puts you in the same category of lumping everyone in one group into necessarily holding the same views.

The God I worship is the same One who cares for you, too. So I pass no judgment on anyone. I believe we stand on common ground, in need of the same forgiveness and the same help as everyone around us.

So perhaps the real disappointment of civil unions is not that legally men or women may declare they have a partner of the same sex ---it is that I doubt many, if any, Churches would open their doors to allow a gay couple to join together before God. Because if you are going to deeply love some one, and wish to declare it to the world, it should be before God.

Fair point. I was generalizing and shouldn't have.

[Bideshi]

How did Jesus, Christianity and churches get into this? There are people of all faiths and atheists that recognise homosexual behavior as deviant and immoral.

[dude_reino]

Originally Posted by delta07

Actually, your logic behind this is flawed. The hospital isn't doing this based on a business decision. Unfortunately it has to do with state laws that don't allow for domestic partnerships, same sex partnerships, and the like. Again, we could go back to the example given earlier about African Americans not having the right to access the same hospitals as white people. It's time to recognize some basic human rights. Yes, they are rights! We are all human and have the right to be treated equally under the law!

Agree to disagree. My theory is that hospitals can certainly decide to allow gay partners in the ICU if they want to--many already do. However, many hospitals are Catholic Hospitals, and thus do not recognize a gay partner. So, the government mandate forcing them to allow gay partners violates the hospitals' rights under the first amendment.

[Josseppie]

Originally Posted by dude_reino

Agree to disagree. My theory is that hospitals can certainly decide to allow gay partners in the ICU if they want to--many already do. However, many hospitals are Catholic Hospitals, and thus do not recognize a gay partner. So, the government mandate forcing them to allow gay partners violates the hospitals' rights under the first amendment.

That is a good example of why we need civil unions/ gay marriage in Colorado. If a person is in a accident and it taken to the nearest hospital then they might not have a choice as to what hospital they go to. Sometimes the only way their partner could visit them if they are gay is if they are married or in a civil union and in this situation, even if it is a religiously ran hospital, while I agree with the separation of church and state in some instances they should not be allowed to hide behind religion especially when peoples lives are at stake or the chance of seeing their loved one for the last time before he or she dies.

[denverian]

Originally Posted by Bideshi

How did Jesus, Christianity and churches get into this? There are people of all faiths and atheists that recognise homosexual behavior as deviant and immoral.

Hate to break the news to you, but there are plenty of Christian churches that accept gay people as they are, don't believe being gay is a sin, and welcome them. My own church in Denver being one. I know of many churches in Denver that are fully accepting of gay people. You can interpret the Bible to back up hate and bigotry, or love and acceptance.

[denverian]

Originally Posted by dude_reino

Although I've heard they're close to passing a man-sheep marriage bill up there...

lol! That wouldn't surprise me. I'm sure it gets cold and lonely in such a sparsely populated state.