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Old 05-01-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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The National Day of Prayer represents what religion? None, it doesn't even have to be religious. So many liberal idiots are caught up in the separation of Church & State garbage that they miss the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Spite makes people blind.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:53 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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Do you use currency??

Personally, I don't care what you do, but no need to get all bothered by this and then start throwing around ridiculous comments like "national religion", etc.
I don't care what YOU do. I care what the government does with my tax dollars. Supporting religion is one of those things that it shouldn't. This isn't about your right to pray with a g'zillion people if you choose. I don't care. Pray from today till tomorrow. Pray for love, life and a million bucks. You can pray till you die for all I care.

This is about the government engaging in what is religious activity. It's forbidden by the Constitution and been codified by the Supreme Court interpretation.

You don't care. I get it. Others do. A minority of us feel like this is a violation of our rights-- And that's part of what government does: Protect minorities from hegemony of majorities.
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Old 05-01-2012, 12:57 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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The National Day of Prayer represents what religion? None, it doesn't even have to be religious. So many liberal idiots are caught up in the separation of Church & State garbage that they miss the "prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Spite makes people blind.
If it's areligious it should be called Day of Reflection. You deny that prayer has religious connotations (What religion? All of 'em)-- and you call liberals idiots?

You may exercise your religion freely. Please, go ahead. But keep the government out of it.

It's so strange that all these anti-government types suddenly need the government to organize a prayer service for them....
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:19 PM
 
Location: New England
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No one has shown a document yet that prohibits the government from having any religious affiliation. Probably because it doesn't exist. No one is forcing you to pray, no one is forcing you to be religious, no one is creating a state sponsored religion. We are a religious nation, it's right in our very first amendment. How this is not clear, is beyond me.

If the mayor wants to make a declaration, he can. If the people want to vote him out for it, they can. Great country, isn't it?

I love how all of a sudden the tax and spend liberals are worried that mayor making a prayer declaration is "waste". lol

Has it ever occurred that if we had a little more charity and religion going on, that we would not need so many "government programs" to deal with the aftermath...or to fund gruesome abortions.

I get it, gay folks have issue with religion for the most part. Please don't project your perceived issues on the rest of us.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:27 PM
 
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"Love your brothers and sisters, live righteously, be selfless."

Oh, the humanity!!! Curse them!!!
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:28 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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No one has shown a document yet that prohibits the government from having any religious affiliation. Probably because it doesn't exist. No one is forcing you to pray, no one is forcing you to be religious, no one is creating a state sponsored religion. We are a religious nation, it's right in our very first amendment. How this is not clear, is beyond me.
So Dearborne, Mich can declare itself a Muslim community and codify it in the town charter?

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I love how all of a sudden the tax and spend liberals are worried that mayor making a prayer declaration is "waste". lol
Perhaps if prayer and charity were getting it done there wouldn't have been a need for government programs to begin with. We tried the prayer and charity program before. How did that work out? How does it work in other countries that have no social support system? Please point me to an example of a country where the prayer and church community successfully provides a social support system without an outrageous degree of national indigence.

I love cutting spending, by the way, and no liberal is for wanton spending and taxation except in the collective conservative imagination. Let's start with cutting the military by a third and the National Day of Prayer by 100%.

As for my sexuality influencing my "love" of religion... When the church convinces the government that you should have a "domestic partnership" and I should have a marriage, perhaps I'll change my tune... In the meantime the hostility is more than earned...No projection needed.
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Old 05-01-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: New England
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So Dearborne, Mich can declare itself a Muslim community and codify it in the town charter?
Of course not...don't be obtuse. The event in Middletown is nothing close to doing that in any way shape or form.

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Perhaps if prayer and charity were getting it done there wouldn't have been a need for government programs to begin with. We tried the prayer and charity program before. How did that work out? How does it work in other countries that have no social support system? Please point me to an example of a country where the prayer and church community successfully provides a social support system without an outrageous degree of national indigence.
Uh huh...think about that next time you see the red cross, salvation army, countless soup kitchens, disaster relief (Which btw was much quicker and effective than FEMA during Katrina.), countless hours of volunteer time in prisons, adoption agencies, the next time you pass one of those "saint" hospitals on and on.

Perhaps it's because we were told to abandon some of those principles, that we are now a nation of greed with no respect for the rule of law with violent crime running rampant, the porn and drug industry run wild etc etc

Just maybe,,,
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:41 PM
 
Location: New London County, CT
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JViello... You said:

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No one has shown a document yet that prohibits the government from having any religious affiliation.
So I ask again, what's to stop Deerborne from codifying itself as an official Muslim City in America?

Why can't it declare Shar'ia law? You can't JUST protect Christians.... So if the government isn't prohibited, as you claim, what's to stop Deerborne or other Muslim enclaves?
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Old 05-01-2012, 04:46 PM
 
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Do you use currency??
Money Talks?

Literally, it does not. So i'm good with the greenbacks.

I sat through a funeral recently listening to the preachings of X,Y,Z.

The only time that i will subject myself to preaching is when there's a funeral. And that's as close to "hell" as i'll ever get. LOL.

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Old 05-01-2012, 05:27 PM
 
Location: U.S.
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I don't care what YOU do. I care what the government does with my tax dollars. Supporting religion is one of those things that it shouldn't. This isn't about your right to pray with a g'zillion people if you choose. I don't care. Pray from today till tomorrow. Pray for love, life and a million bucks. You can pray till you die for all I care.

This is about the government engaging in what is religious activity. It's forbidden by the Constitution and been codified by the Supreme Court interpretation.

You don't care. I get it. Others do. A minority of us feel like this is a violation of our rights-- And that's part of what government does: Protect minorities from hegemony of majorities.
Wow - angry much? Sadly, I believe that people like you are whats wrong with this country. You are probably the same person who is against the pledge and the words "under God", and the same person who has an issue with the word Christmas? Right? Like the government does "break" any other rules, but its funny that this one is the one that gets your underwear all in a bunch. Peace
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