[FutureTown]

By the 1790s, much of Western Europe was already in stages of abolishing slavery. Northeast America wished to follow suit. Southern states had their economy dependent on slavery, so, obviously, they were unhappy. In fact, when they moved the capital from Philly to DC and ambassadors would come from other countries, they would be shocked to see slaves outside the White House doing work in the field. By then, many countries America traded with had abolished slavery largely, and especially in their capitals.

But yes, CTA&M, your true point remains. The Constitution, while it is the Supreme Law of the Land, is a flawed document, and it always will be since humans aren't perfect. If anyone needs proof, just look at how many amendments we need, and how many were discussed that were tossed out. Also, women weren't allowed to vote till an amendment (19, to be specific) changed that. Talk about real democracy and equality, lol. I view myself as an independent. Economically speaking, I lean socialist, and I'm not a fan of Democratic or the Republican party at all. I'm unhappy with 99% of the folks sitting in Congress, and that's really where my lament comes from.

Also, I'm surprised no one commented on what I had posted earlier about how a former Republican senator who became CT's governor installed the income tax and cut taxes on dividends and capital gains. Guess who that favored big time?

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by CTartist&musician

I relate to SOME views NEP (a Democrat) stands for but I would like to see more parties than 2 and I have stated that many time on this site. BTW, I have never seen NEP advocate for a single party system but then again I probably have only seen a handful of NEP's posts........I relate to SOME views of non far right Republicans..........I relate to SOME views of non far left Democrats. One of my favorite politicians who I agreed with many of his views was Bill Clinton. He was considered a Centrist that leans to the left of course. I consider myself a Centrist that leans to the left also.

So yes, I KNOW I am a centrist and I did vote for Malloy.

Besides voting for "progressives" like Malloy, another hallmark of liberals is the trashing of the Founding Fathers and our Constitution, while putting Bill Clinton on a pedestal.

Constitution is the most innovative, cutting edge framework of Governance in history of mankind. Its also the foundation of our system which in the last 200 years has proven to be wildly successful.

Many founding fathers slammed slavery, yet that was our society at the time.

Yes, Malloy's liberal ancestors, Democrats, fought for slavery, and later for segregration. This is liberal's legacy.

Clinton himself was not a Centrist. He was a liberal, albeit not a kook fiscally, who took Conservative's lead in economic matters.

It's funny how Democrats talk about war on women, yet they are proud of Clinton, a rapist. Clinton's mentor, Fullbright was a also racist. Yet liberals spew their deceit as if they care for minorities and women.

About the single-party rule - here is Nep's post you missed:

Originally Posted by nep321

In my opinion, the Republican party might as well just disappear. We need 100% Democratic Party rule in this nation, going forward (I'm serious, too).

[Mr_250]

Cool map, gives a nice perspective on how each muni voted. (http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/upload/2...hermargins.png)

Looks like a lot of red

[FutureTown]

Seems like not every affluent area voted for Foley. Guilford, West Hartford, Woodbridge, and Westport sticking out the most to me. Also surprised a good chunk of Litchfield County went towards Malloy.

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by Henry10

Besides voting for "progressives" like Malloy, another hallmark of liberals is the trashing of the Founding Fathers and our Constitution, while putting Bill Clinton on a pedestal.

Constitution is the most innovative, cutting edge framework of Governance in history of mankind. Its also the foundation of our system which in the last 200 years has proven to be wildly successful.

Many founding fathers slammed slavery, yet that was our society at the time.

Yes, Malloy's liberal ancestors, Democrats, fought for slavery, and later for segregration. This is liberal's legacy.

Clinton himself was not a Centrist. He was a liberal, albeit not a kook fiscally, who took Conservative's lead in economic matters.

It's funny how Democrats talk about war on women, yet they are proud of Clinton, a rapist. Clinton's mentor, Fullbright was a also racist. Yet liberals spew their deceit as if they care for minorities and women.

About the single-party rule - here is Nep's post you missed:

So much kooky, fringe thinking in this post.

I think liberals, instead of looking at the founding fathers as deities as men-- Both heroic and flawed. It's an honest view of history instead of a white wash. To understand Jefferson, you have to understand the he's both the genius behind Monticello and that the Louisiana Purchase was an abdication of his basic stand on states rights. You have to know that he was both a genius writer and a man who likely had sex with slaves... I like to think the country is strong enough to withstand the truth about its founders instead of concocting a fable.

It kind of reminds me of when the rightwingers try to rewrite history to pretend that this country was founded in Christianity when the founding fathers were mostly deists...Is that the kind of "trashing" to which you refer?

Two of the reasons the Constitution has been successful is that is both amendable and open for interpretation.

As far as Clinton goes, he's no liberal. Senator Sanders is a liberal. Dennis Kucininch is a liberal. He's a moderate.

When it comes to the war on women, I'll give them enough credit to know what's in their best interests and look at the poll numbers from the last few elections.

[Henry10]

Originally Posted by mlassoff

So much kooky, fringe thinking in this post.

I see that you are pathologically attracted to derogatory comments, name-calling and attacks. You can't help yourself.

And having you participate in a civilized discussion is like having a powder keg next to the campfire. From now on, you are going on the ignored list too.

[mlassoff]

Originally Posted by Henry10

I see that you are pathologically attracted to derogatory comments, name-calling and attacks. You can't help yourself.

And having you participate in a civilized discussion is like having a powder keg next to the campfire. From now on, you are going on the ignored list too.

I'm sorry... Did you say something about derogatory comments?

Originally Posted by Henry10

It's funny how Democrats talk about war on women, yet they are proud of Clinton, a rapist. Clinton's mentor, Fullbright was a also racist. Yet liberals spew their deceit as if they care for minorities and women.

[Beeker2211]

Originally Posted by Henry10

I see that you are pathologically attracted to derogatory comments, name-calling and attacks. You can't help yourself.

And having you participate in a civilized discussion is like having a powder keg next to the campfire. From now on, you are going on the ignored list too.

To be honest though, you claimed that liberals of today have their ideological roots in the old Democrats of the Civil War. A fact that is patently false. Both parties for numerous reasons have gone through at least 2 distinct transformations within the last 80 years. You from the beginning of this conversation have just tried to tie Democrats (Malloy in particular) with Stalinists writ large and now Dixiecrats that haven't existed in 40 years (whom bailed out of the party because the remaining Democrats thought that maybe keeping a whole section of fellow Americans in subservient positions may have been a gross failure of morality)?? Seriously, have you no shame? Can you at least have a single coherent insane theory?

As for the Constitution being wildly successful, don't forget that it failed multiple times in big ways in which many people died, as well as it was written in a fly-by-night manner so that the Confederation wouldn't implode within months. It was not written by god herself, but I happen to believe its' the least bad option for our country right now.

[HeadedWest]

Originally Posted by FutureTown

Seems like not every affluent area voted for Foley. Guilford, West Hartford, Woodbridge, and Westport sticking out the most to me. Also surprised a good chunk of Litchfield County went towards Malloy.

Think of parts of Litchfield County as Upper West Side North.

[Mr_250]

Originally Posted by FutureTown

Seems like not every affluent area voted for Foley. Guilford, West Hartford, Woodbridge, and Westport sticking out the most to me. Also surprised a good chunk of Litchfield County went towards Malloy.

46 towns (27%) of the munis voted for Malloy. That leaves the other 73% of munis voting for Foley.

It's interesting to see the spread of population and population centers in Connecticut. It's pretty amazing how densely populated the Cities are in Connecticut.