[Cambium]

Slow and No hurricanes this whole season. Thank God for Climate Change! Connecticut hasnt even been hit with a NorEaster recently!

[simonusa3]

Tropical Storm Franklin is expected to become a hurricane with 110-mph winds by early next week. It looks like it bends out to sea and has no effect on Connecticut, but it does look to kick up surf along the East Coast. We might even see a few tide cycles here in CT above normal:

[Cambium]

Temp departures this month..... Look at that, most of the country near normal or below normal including CT. We're saved! Maybe our Climate stopped changing?

Avg Temp This month so far:

Bridgeport 73.1° : -1.8 below normal
Hartford 71.4° -1.6 below normal



And past 60 days. CT Normal/Slightly above. Only small areas are well above normal.

[WouldLoveTo]

Oh look, it's raining again! It also rained 3 times yesterday and it wasn't supposed to. I did manage to get a few weeds pulled before it started.

[htfdcolt]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Temp departures this month..... Look at that, most of the country near normal or below normal including CT. We're saved! Maybe our Climate stopped changing?

Avg Temp This month so far:

Bridgeport 73.1° : -1.8 below normal
Hartford 71.4° -1.6 below normal

And past 60 days. CT Normal/Slightly above. Only small areas are well above normal.

I know you're smart enough to know the difference between climate and weather. Forget the media hype, I think it's pretty clear that much of the lower half of the US is going through an undeniably extended stretch under the heat dome. And you have to look at mean temps, spatially and temporally averaged, year over year. The trend is pretty clear, we can of course argue over root causes. We were lucky this summer here in the Northeast, but we're hardly representative.

[simonusa3]

Not that this has anything to do with the climate change debate...but it does seem like we go from a few months above normal to a few months below normal...then back again.

I just read that they (NOAA) think the El Nino will persist through fall and winter 2023/2024. NOAA long range is showing they think a high chance of warmer than normal Nov - Jan. If this is true, we are in for another winter of sunshine and 50 F temps:

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by simonusa3

While I agree that there is climate change going on (and likely caused by man), I also think we forget that there is always years, groups of years, decades…etc. that are warmer/cooler than normal. While this is true in every climate zone, this especially true in the middle latitudes. The jet IS suppressed a bit to the south this summer season, but there were years when it was unusually north of where it should be as well. Look at this past winter (2022/2023)….many of us were happy that the patten was the opposite, the cold stayed bottled up to the north.

I’ll take 80’s F in summer instead of 90’s F…. if it means the snow/cold stays up in Canada and the north.

In a given place, of course. I even noted in my reply that the US is a small enough piece of the world's area that there are times where more than half of it, even most of it has below normal temps (and I will actually credit Cambium on his post showing more than half the country currently below normal that all the news is on the dome of heat in TX and LA.....but of course a day before it was most of the Midwest as well....Chicago had it's first 100 degree day in over a decade (however, historically that frequency is actually a little below normal there)).....and New Orleans tieing it's all time high of 102 and shattering the number of 100 degree days this year is significant.

But the real point to your statement I bolded is that again, this is true in a given location, but when you average out the world as a whole at any given moment, it's always above normal compared to the recent past and that's the point. Compared to millions of years ago maybe not but back then nature took millenia to change the climate, not decades.

[ryanthegoldengod]

Originally Posted by Cambium

Temp departures this month..... Look at that, most of the country near normal or below normal including CT. We're saved! Maybe our Climate stopped changing?

Avg Temp This month so far:

Bridgeport 73.1° : -1.8 below normal
Hartford 71.4° -1.6 below normal



And past 60 days. CT Normal/Slightly above. Only small areas are well above normal.

You're still beating the drum of climate change denialism? Come on, this is so 1998. You do know that when they look at temperature, they are averaging out temps across the entire globe over an entire year? So a much more representative sample size?

And playing the cherrypicking game is always a double edged sword. You can tell me about a milder than usual August in CT, but then I can tell you that July was globally the hottest month ever recorded.

[ryanthegoldengod]

Originally Posted by 7 Wishes

In a given place, of course. I even noted in my reply that the US is a small enough piece of the world's area that there are times where more than half of it, even most of it has below normal temps (and I will actually credit Cambium on his post showing more than half the country currently below normal that all the news is on the dome of heat in TX and LA.....but of course a day before it was most of the Midwest as well....Chicago had it's first 100 degree day in over a decade (however, historically that frequency is actually a little below normal there)).....and New Orleans tieing it's all time high of 102 and shattering the number of 100 degree days this year is significant.

But the real point to your statement I bolded is that again, this is true in a given location, but when you average out the world as a whole at any given moment, it's always above normal compared to the recent past and that's the point. Compared to millions of years ago maybe not but back then nature took millenia to change the climate, not decades.

Yes. And when people say the earth has undergone many previous climate changes, they are correct but they always leave out one very crucial point: those periods caused MASSIVE EXTINCTIONS OF SPECIES. It's ultimately not Mother Earth we are trying to protect, she will likely survive until the sun turns into supernova. It's us bipedal, oxygen breathing mammals that are in the much more vulnerable position. The earth is going to survive climate change, but will it survive as a habitable home for us?

[7 Wishes]

Originally Posted by ryanthegoldengod

Yes. And when people say the earth has undergone many previous climate changes, they are correct but they always leave out one very crucial point: those periods caused MASSIVE EXTINCTIONS OF SPECIES. It's ultimately not Mother Earth we are trying to protect, she will likely survive until the sun turns into supernova. It's us bipedal, oxygen breathing mammals that are in the much more vulnerable position. The earth is going to survive climate change, but will it survive as a habitable home for us?

And again we are doing it at a much faster pace than Mother Nature ever did.....