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Old 03-01-2024, 06:50 AM
 
Location: East Coast USA
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Fir those who watch the seasons...Meterological Winter 2023/2024 is now history.


*Nearly 95 % of the USA was normal to above normal temp wise.

*Locally, the Tri-State area was 3 to 6 F above normal...


*NWS Hartford recorded 24 inches of snow (17.2 inches below normal to date)

*NWS Bridgeport recorded 15.6 inches of snow (10.1 inches below normal to data)


* Most NWS stations from NYC to Richmond, VA had below normal snowfall


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Old 03-01-2024, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Woburn, MA / W. Hartford, CT
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Fir those who watch the seasons...Meterological Winter 2023/2024 is now history.


*Nearly 95 % of the USA was normal to above normal temp wise.

*Locally, the Tri-State area was 3 to 6 F above normal...


*NWS Hartford recorded 24 inches of snow (17.2 inches below normal to date)

*NWS Bridgeport recorded 15.6 inches of snow (10.1 inches below normal to data)


* Most NWS stations from NYC to Richmond, VA had below normal snowfall

Boston also WAY below normal.
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Old 03-01-2024, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Connecticut USA
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Fir those who watch the seasons...Meterological Winter 2023/2024 is now history.


*Nearly 95 % of the USA was normal to above normal temp wise.

*Locally, the Tri-State area was 3 to 6 F above normal...


*NWS Hartford recorded 24 inches of snow (17.2 inches below normal to date)

*NWS Bridgeport recorded 15.6 inches of snow (10.1 inches below normal to data)


* Most NWS stations from NYC to Richmond, VA had below normal snowfall
Until we have a *somewhat normal winter in the near future- as in we're not breaking high temp records consistently across the country - I'm thinking the days of the old cold and snowy winters just may be a thing of the past. But we'll see. I'm in no way shape or form a meteorological person but I'm predicting more of the same next winter.

I know that might sound crazy but I'm just calling it how I've been seeing it the last number of years.
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Old 03-01-2024, 08:57 AM
 
Location: On the Great South Bay
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On Long Island, I am not even sure if we really ever had a winter this season.

I see plants in the front yard that normally die in November that are still alive in March. That is just bizarre because somehow they made it through numerous frosts at night.
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Old 03-01-2024, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Cheshire, Connecticut USA
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Neither did a lot of the country. Maybe next year.
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Old 03-02-2024, 03:59 AM
 
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The winter of '23-'24 may be the coldest winter we will ever see.

BDL records- on average- the past, we had 29 days a winter when the temperature failed to rise above freezing 32F- this winter we have had 6 days- thus far.

Atlantic ocean is freakishly warm right now.
https://www.vox.com/climate/2024/2/2...eefs-bleaching

On the Keeling Curve March 1, 425ppm https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/
This over 25ppm higher than 10 years ago.

https://twitter.com/CO2_earth/status...996888/photo/1

Over the last 800,000 years during an interglacial- 275ppm C02

Currently C02 at 425ppm- highest in 14 million years- last seen in the Miocene

The El Nino is ending- We should be in a La Nina mid summer. With the current ocean warming- the hurricane season could be troubling.

The climate in Connecticut- and New England is now vastly different than 40 years ago.
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Old 03-02-2024, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Near the Coast SWCT
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Hey look...more rain.

We need the drought !

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Old 03-02-2024, 06:20 AM
 
Location: East Coast USA
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Until we have a *somewhat normal winter in the near future- as in we're not breaking high temp records consistently across the country - I'm thinking the days of the old cold and snowy winters just may be a thing of the past. But we'll see. I'm in no way shape or form a meteorological person but I'm predicting more of the same next winter.

I know that might sound crazy but I'm just calling it how I've been seeing it the last number of years.



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On Long Island, I am not even sure if we really ever had a winter this season.

I see plants in the front yard that normally die in November that are still alive in March. That is just bizarre because somehow they made it through numerous frosts at night.


No doubt, it was a warmer than normal winter (but we still have about 2- 3 weeks left). I actually saw a few bees in front of my house all winter. Although I have seen that before over the years in warm winters.

However, I do think that our local area (southern Tri-State area) is a climate where winter can go either way. A few degrees above normal, and winters locally are actually not that cold/snowy compared to places like Minnesota, Michigan, or Maine (for example)...while a few degrees below normal and it can feel like a real winter climate. Even a normal winter (with close to normal temps) once much below Massachusetts, is really not all that "wintry" with cold or snow. Places as close as southern NJ or Delaware only average 15 inches of snow or less annually, and no month averages below freezing.

One of the most interesting maps I ever saw shows that once you get to around NYC/Long Island/southern CT....winter is pretty fleeting. This map shows the we only average 90 - 120 days of winter (and that's in a normal winter). Compare that to points inland and north/west. Parts of northern New Mexico and northern AZ have a longer winter than the Tri-State area:




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Old 03-02-2024, 08:48 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Keeling Curve 58 View Post
The winter of '23-'24 may be the coldest winter we will ever see.

BDL records- on average- the past, we had 29 days a winter when the temperature failed to rise above freezing 32F- this winter we have had 6 days- thus far.

Atlantic ocean is freakishly warm right now.
https://www.vox.com/climate/2024/2/2...eefs-bleaching

On the Keeling Curve March 1, 425ppm https://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu/
This over 25ppm higher than 10 years ago.

https://twitter.com/CO2_earth/status...996888/photo/1

Over the last 800,000 years during an interglacial- 275ppm C02

Currently C02 at 425ppm- highest in 14 million years- last seen in the Miocene

The El Nino is ending- We should be in a La Nina mid summer. With the current ocean warming- the hurricane season could be troubling.

The climate in Connecticut- and New England is now vastly different than 40 years ago.
Stop with this fear porn. 10 years ago we set records for both cold and snowfall in CT. The 80s was surprisingly snow “lite” and warm (so we aren’t that different). The gulf is about 10 degrees colder than a year ago. Go look at Naples up through the panhandle.
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Old 03-02-2024, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Somewhere on the Moon.
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Until we have a *somewhat normal winter in the near future- as in we're not breaking high temp records consistently across the country - I'm thinking the days of the old cold and snowy winters just may be a thing of the past. But we'll see. I'm in no way shape or form a meteorological person but I'm predicting more of the same next winter.

I know that might sound crazy but I'm just calling it how I've been seeing it the last number of years.
Given enough time, the higher temp averages during the winter months will become a normal winter in CT. Whenever it’s mentioned that temps were above normal or below normal, snowfall was above normal or below normal, etc; that is not based on a fixed average to define normal, rather the average given X number of years (I ignore how many years are averaged to define what would be the normal state in a given season.)
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