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Once again you are trying to look back at history to make a "who's had it worse" comparison. That is irrelevant. Bullies usually try to justify their actions in this matter.
I'm the one making a "who's had it worse" comparison? The entire premise of this thread, the one you have (inappropriately) going on in the Real Estate forum, and at least two other threads you have started in "Current Events" are all thinly-veiled attempts to try and justify the actions of Donald Sterling. For some reason, you have a "thing" for Sterling. As a result, you are looking at Jay-Z's medallion, Shaq's insults, and Charles Barkley's comments about "big women" in San Antonio as equivalencies to Donald Sterling's comments.
Numerous posters in all of the threads you have started have deftly explained to you why these are all false equivalencies. One of the first respondents on your Real Estate thread explained to you that racial discrimination is a legal issue, so "morally" wanting to only rent to certain races is completely irrelevant. Donald Sterling can "morally" dislike blacks and not invite them to his home if he chooses. If this "morality" crosses over into the denial of housing then he has broken the law on the basis of being a racist, plain and simple.
I have already refuted the racist notion of Jay-Z's "Five Percenter" medallion. He was wearing Mardi Gras beads around his neck the last Brooklyn playoff home game so I don't think he puts too much thought into what his accessories are. I also don't think Clarence 13X would have approved of Jay Z, his wife, and much of the company Jay Z keeps, in any event.
What kind of punishment are you itching for on the behalf of Shaq and Barkley? A lifetime ban like Sterling received? Do you think Barkley has gotten a much longer leash than Sterling because he is black? I give you Charles Barkley and raise you Howard Stern! Has there been anyone in the history of American telecommunications given a longer leash than Howard Stern? How many millions of dollars has he been fined by the FCC? Yet, he is still on the air (SiriusXM). As long as Howard Stern has followers and can make money, he will have a job based on the shocking things he says. You evoked Don Imus earlier. Maybe you are a teenager but Don Imus was around a loooooong time before he made his "Nappy Headed Hos" remark. Don Imus was no Fox News Talking Point reciter and his freedom of speech was supported by many friends of all creeds and colors.
Yet, out of all of the things Imus has said in his career, why was the Nappy Headed Hos remark the one that took him down? It was his justification:
"That phrase [nappy-headed ho] didn't originate in the White Community. That phrase originated in the Black community. Young Black women all through that society are demeaned and disparaged and disrespected by their own Black men, and they are called that name in Black hip-hop."
Whoops, wrong answer! Up until he tried to deflect blame Imus had support from comedians both black and white for his comments. As I have said on numerous threads on City-Data, until folks stop using the "well other folks did it too" defense then these folks will be permanently relegated to sanctions. "Somebody else hit her first, other people say the N-word too, and I'm not the only one who steals" cannot be used as a defense in the court of law and not ironically, as a justification in larger society.
I'm the one making a "who's had it worse" comparison? The entire premise of this thread, the one you have (inappropriately) going on in the Real Estate forum, and at least two other threads you have started in "Current Events" are all thinly-veiled attempts to try and justify the actions of Donald Sterling. For some reason, you have a "thing" for Sterling. As a result, you are looking at Jay-Z's medallion, Shaq's insults, and Charles Barkley's comments about "big women" in San Antonio as equivalencies to Donald Sterling's comments.
Numerous posters in all of the threads you have started have deftly explained to you why these are all false equivalencies. One of the first respondents on your Real Estate thread explained to you that racial discrimination is a legal issue, so "morally" wanting to only rent to certain races is completely irrelevant. Donald Sterling can "morally" dislike blacks and not invite them to his home if he chooses. If this "morality" crosses over into the denial of housing then he has broken the law on the basis of being a racist, plain and simple.
I have already refuted the racist notion of Jay-Z's "Five Percenter" medallion. He was wearing Mardi Gras beads around his neck the last Brooklyn playoff home game so I don't think he puts too much thought into what his accessories are. I also don't think Clarence 13X would have approved of Jay Z, his wife, and much of the company Jay Z keeps, in any event.
What kind of punishment are you itching for on the behalf of Shaq and Barkley? A lifetime ban like Sterling received? Do you think Barkley has gotten a much longer leash than Sterling because he is black? I give you Charles Barkley and raise you Howard Stern! Has there been anyone in the history of American telecommunications given a longer leash than Howard Stern? How many millions of dollars has he been fined by the FCC? Yet, he is still on the air (SiriusXM). As long as Howard Stern has followers and can make money, he will have a job based on the shocking things he says. You evoked Don Imus earlier. Maybe you are a teenager but Don Imus was around a loooooong time before he made his "Nappy Headed Hos" remark. Don Imus was no Fox News Talking Point reciter and his freedom of speech was supported by many friends of all creeds and colors.
Yet, out of all of the things Imus has said in his career, why was the Nappy Headed Hos remark the one that took him down? It was his justification:
"That phrase [nappy-headed ho] didn't originate in the White Community. That phrase originated in the Black community. Young Black women all through that society are demeaned and disparaged and disrespected by their own Black men, and they are called that name in Black hip-hop."
Whoops, wrong answer! Up until he tried to deflect blame Imus had support from comedians both black and white for his comments. As I have said on numerous threads on City-Data, until folks stop using the "well other folks did it too" defense then these folks will be permanently relegated to sanctions. "Somebody else hit her first, other people say the N-word too, and I'm not the only one who steals" cannot be used as a defense in the court of law and not ironically, as a justification in larger society.
The difference with Imus is that he was hired by NBC to say these sort of edgy and controversial things. They knew what they were getting and allowed it for years. It wasn't until all of these watch groups popped up and people like Sharpton demanded boycotts and lawsuits that he Imus was used as a scapegoat and fired. Of course he was going to defend himself, but NBC was fine with all of his previous remarks regarding race, gender, homosexuality etc., and hired him to perform that sort of material. It wasn't until they buckled under pressure from sponsors and special interest groups that they decided to throw Imus to the wolves and ultimately under the bus.
Joke is on them though, MSNBC does so poorly in ratings now even Obama makes jokes about them, and they are his biggest fan.
Kenny is a class act all the way. I dont think he'd let his mouth get away from him like that.
I personally didnt find Barkley's comment all that offensive. Shaq making fun of someone with a facial deformity via twitter was low class. Just MO though.
I'm the one making a "who's had it worse" comparison? The entire premise of this thread, the one you have (inappropriately) going on in the Real Estate forum, and at least two other threads you have started in "Current Events" are all thinly-veiled attempts to try and justify the actions of Donald Sterling. For some reason, you have a "thing" for Sterling. As a result, you are looking at Jay-Z's medallion, Shaq's insults, and Charles Barkley's comments about "big women" in San Antonio as equivalencies to Donald Sterling's comments.
Numerous posters in all of the threads you have started have deftly explained to you why these are all false equivalencies. One of the first respondents on your Real Estate thread explained to you that racial discrimination is a legal issue, so "morally" wanting to only rent to certain races is completely irrelevant. Donald Sterling can "morally" dislike blacks and not invite them to his home if he chooses. If this "morality" crosses over into the denial of housing then he has broken the law on the basis of being a racist, plain and simple.
I have already refuted the racist notion of Jay-Z's "Five Percenter" medallion. He was wearing Mardi Gras beads around his neck the last Brooklyn playoff home game so I don't think he puts too much thought into what his accessories are. I also don't think Clarence 13X would have approved of Jay Z, his wife, and much of the company Jay Z keeps, in any event.
What kind of punishment are you itching for on the behalf of Shaq and Barkley? A lifetime ban like Sterling received? Do you think Barkley has gotten a much longer leash than Sterling because he is black? I give you Charles Barkley and raise you Howard Stern! Has there been anyone in the history of American telecommunications given a longer leash than Howard Stern? How many millions of dollars has he been fined by the FCC? Yet, he is still on the air (SiriusXM). As long as Howard Stern has followers and can make money, he will have a job based on the shocking things he says. You evoked Don Imus earlier. Maybe you are a teenager but Don Imus was around a loooooong time before he made his "Nappy Headed Hos" remark. Don Imus was no Fox News Talking Point reciter and his freedom of speech was supported by many friends of all creeds and colors.
Yet, out of all of the things Imus has said in his career, why was the Nappy Headed Hos remark the one that took him down? It was his justification:
"That phrase [nappy-headed ho] didn't originate in the White Community. That phrase originated in the Black community. Young Black women all through that society are demeaned and disparaged and disrespected by their own Black men, and they are called that name in Black hip-hop."
Whoops, wrong answer! Up until he tried to deflect blame Imus had support from comedians both black and white for his comments. As I have said on numerous threads on City-Data, until folks stop using the "well other folks did it too" defense then these folks will be permanently relegated to sanctions. "Somebody else hit her first, other people say the N-word too, and I'm not the only one who steals" cannot be used as a defense in the court of law and not ironically, as a justification in larger society.
I believe this thread confirms your point. If someone says the n word 30 years ago, the country goes into a panic, demands vengence and blood in the streets. Our country cries and the president speaks out.
Someone makes fun of fat white women...95% of the country joins in and millions of new fat jokes are created. You could call it collective fat joke brain storming. Someone could even propose fat joke Friday as a national holiday.
What a set of conclusions...
N-word is worse than saying what it stands for - sort of like putting an animated Las Vegas neon sign over yourself to let everyone know you said it. And it would be worse now than 30 years ago.
Most of the women in San Antonio aren't white; I visit quite frequently.
N-word is worse than saying what it stands for - sort of like putting an animated Las Vegas neon sign over yourself to let everyone know you said it. And it would be worse now than 30 years ago.
Most of the women in San Antonio aren't white; I visit quite frequently.
This thread makes my head hurt.
Well yeah I don't care for people using "n word" so much to mask the word they are talking about. When someone says "n word" doesn't the actual word they are referring to register in their mind? So what's the big deal about making that thought vocal? I doubt the sound of a word being vocalized ever hurt anyone so why do we try so hard to cover it up? I wonder if people will still say "n word" in 100 years?
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