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Old 09-18-2014, 08:45 PM
 
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Someone the size of the Green Giant should beat him with a tree and see how much he likes it. He didn't just spank the child. The child has numerous cuts on various parts of his body from the switch so he hit him repeatedly not once or twice. Nice parenting.

 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:51 PM
 
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Someone the size of the Green Giant should beat him with a tree and see how much he likes it. He didn't just spank the child. The child has numerous cuts on various parts of his body from the switch so he hit him repeatedly not once or twice. Nice parenting.
Is it against the law in Texas to strike a child during corporal punishment more than 1 or 2 times?
 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:55 PM
 
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Is it against the law in Texas to strike a child during corporal punishment more than 1 or 2 times?
I don't know Texas law. I'm not for corporal punishment at all. Clearly, the law doesn't think what he did was ok or else he wouldn't have been arrested and charged.
 
Old 09-18-2014, 08:57 PM
 
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Until the investigation is is done, and the trial is done, he should not be permitted to be alone with his children. He is facing *crimnal* charges. A man who would beat for four year old over a normal four year old behavior, especially give that four year olds are just forming concepts, has something *seriously* wrong with him. I hope that social services dogs his life until this kid until he cannot be with them alone. Men who are abused by their fathers learn nothing else but we have come to recognize that IT STOPS now. Ditto for the so called 'hero' who knocked his delued wife unconcsious in the elevator. You can unlearn a behaviour if you choose to. Until such time he should not be in the same room alone with children.

So what if people used to do it? It doesn't change that they damaged their children. It doesn't change that viiolence creates anger and anger can explode. Children who grow up with violence grow up thinking its all right to be violent since they were violated and nobody cared. Someone I know was beaten by his father a lot as a child. His sister said he would cry but was afraid to show the feelings. He learned to hide them. He ended up losing contact with his own child thanks to the 'lesson' he learned and his dad KNEW why because he had learned what it wrought.

I believe the law most places is spanking is allowed ONLY if its bare hand. If it hurts too much to punish, it certainly does worse to the child. A 'switch' which leaves a four year old BLEEDING is sheer barbairty and he deserves jail time with "child abuser' stamped on his chest.

And FOOTBALL needs to own up to its responsibility for real standards. These so called 'heros' who run fast do NOT deserve the adulation they get and do deserve being banned from their sport if they have any history of domestic violence and/or child abuse, especially violence. We need to stop celebrating the act of doing harm.

Perhaps if companies worried about the bottom line are told that they *share* the responsibility and normal moms and dads who do not beat their children raise a loud enough voice, then the 'rewards' of being a beast will vanish. Especially if they also tell that football heirarcy with their advertising dollar and support won't be promoting child abusers.
They are only heros if you allow them to be. Don't blame the NFL for parents being lazy enough to let people who run fast be heros.

Texas law does not restrict parents to only using their hand.

Seeing this as a reason for the child to not have a father is short sighted and is not in the best interest of the child. In fact, your demand probably hurts the child more than any whipping ever could.

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Old 09-18-2014, 10:25 PM
 
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They are only heros if you allow them to be. Don't blame the NFL for parents being lazy enough to let people who run fast be heros.

Texas law does not restrict parents to only using their hand.

Seeing this as a reason for the child to not have a father is short sighted and is not in the best interest of the child. In fact, your demand probably hurts the child more than any whipping ever could.
Lets hope that people will start to see through the image. If not, the NFL needs to learn to police itself. What about the brute who knocked his wife out cold and drageed her out of the elevator? Should he be allowed to represent something which FAR TOO MANY call their 'heros'. The national 'sports for war' mantra is BADLY in need if a revision. I likes sports when I was a kid. Now its who hits harder. NOT something worth venerating.

The real heroes are the people who rescue and help the undefended. The sad part is so much of the damage is done. Maybe they should siphon most of that big money this and others in the infamous football list make and use it for treating and helping their vicutms.

I'm sure Texas is still sunk deep into barbairity. It's not a good place to be an abused wife either. It does not make it acceptable to beat a four year old for being a four year old until they are bleeding. And this DOES teach the child, even if the child is that young, that problems get solved by barbarity. If a man cannot be a man but has to be a brute then he should not *be* raising small childrem. The effects won't be shown immediately. But ask a man who's been beaten by his father and they will not remember respect. And if they don't turn that anger into violence toward children, then they turn it to other means or inward, which can be as destructive. Usually the ones responsible for making the child have grown 'respect' and when things come out people are 'shocked' but the blinders can be thick. The person I knew did turn it towards their own child, and the father absolutely takes a part of the responsibility. Most of that part of the story came after the main drama was over when people started to 'remember' things which no longer seemed so disconnected.

A child with a violent father would absolutely be better off, plus therapy and care. And where was mom, who should have moved in and shut him down and called the police? Is she also abused in different way since the father is in so much need to always be in control.
 
Old 09-19-2014, 04:09 AM
 
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Lets hope that people will start to see through the image. If not, the NFL needs to learn to police itself. What about the brute who knocked his wife out cold and drageed her out of the elevator? Should he be allowed to represent something which FAR TOO MANY call their 'heros'. The national 'sports for war' mantra is BADLY in need if a revision. I likes sports when I was a kid. Now its who hits harder. NOT something worth venerating.

The real heroes are the people who rescue and help the undefended. The sad part is so much of the damage is done. Maybe they should siphon most of that big money this and others in the infamous football list make and use it for treating and helping their vicutms.

I'm sure Texas is still sunk deep into barbairity. It's not a good place to be an abused wife either. It does not make it acceptable to beat a four year old for being a four year old until they are bleeding. And this DOES teach the child, even if the child is that young, that problems get solved by barbarity. If a man cannot be a man but has to be a brute then he should not *be* raising small childrem. The effects won't be shown immediately. But ask a man who's been beaten by his father and they will not remember respect. And if they don't turn that anger into violence toward children, then they turn it to other means or inward, which can be as destructive. Usually the ones responsible for making the child have grown 'respect' and when things come out people are 'shocked' but the blinders can be thick. The person I knew did turn it towards their own child, and the father absolutely takes a part of the responsibility. Most of that part of the story came after the main drama was over when people started to 'remember' things which no longer seemed so disconnected.

A child with a violent father would absolutely be better off, plus therapy and care. And where was mom, who should have moved in and shut him down and called the police? Is she also abused in different way since the father is in so much need to always be in control.
A good post. Thank you. To answer your last question, mom probably depends on him for money. Money isn't everything, until you don't have even the basics to survive.
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