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View Poll Results: If there was an Ebola vaccine, would you take it?
Yes, I'd be one of the first to get a vaccine. Better safe than sorry. 41 11.20%
If it came to my region, then yes, I'd get vaccinated. 67 18.31%
Too soon, but I wouldn't rule it out in the future. 192 52.46%
Rush-to-market vaccines are dangerous. No way would I get a vaccine. 77 21.04%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 366. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-08-2014, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Washington state
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My main question would be who the landlord thinks he is going to rent that apartment to? I wonder if you have to disclose that someone who lived there died of Ebola.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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I think that people far more knowledgeable about this disease than me, are working extremely hard on this problem, and it will be dealt with and contained before it gets out of hand.

Imagine what a feather in the cap that would be for someone or some organization to be the FIRST to come up with an effective way to identity and cause of this virus and an effective treatment, even a vaccine to prevent further infections.

The greatest medical minds aroud the world are working this problem, and some of them may have even gone to schools ranked as the best by US News and World Report.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:18 PM
 
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I'm hoping he doesn't test positive, of course. There's a strong likelihood that he has been going crazy with fear ever since walking into that apartment against his strenuous objection. Duncan dying this morning might have tipped him over the edge. I'm sure his stomach has been hurting with utter and complete worry. If anything, he has brought it to the nation's attention that people are being forced to go into areas they consider unsafe without proper protective gear. That's psychological torture IMO.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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My .02 cents

I already knew the Liberian guy would perish in Dallas. I was so sure of it, that I was compelled to post my prediction in the Dallas forum days ago, but decided against it out of compassion.

I believe he knew there was a strong possibility that he'd been exposed while helping the pregnant victim in Liberia, and immediately decided to come to the U.S. for treatment in the event that he began experiencing symptoms.

He supposedly came here to "marry his fiancé, and mother of his 19 year old son"- neither of whom he has seen since they left Africa 16 years ago! He wasn't experiencing a fever that would alert medics at the Liberian airport, then lied on the questionnaire to ensure his exit. Once here, he probably thought he'd be in good hands, but no... they waited 6 FULL DAYS before administering experimental treatment.

This "looks" suspect in the court of worldwide public opinion, given the expeditious treatment (and subsequent recovery) of the Americans who somehow managed to beat this deadly disease. I won't even touch on the fluorescent elephant in the corner with regard to the patients themselves, but I digress...which brings us to this ironic newfound "second possible victim"

Let me be the first to say (I can't suppress these pesky premonitions any longer ) that I don't believe for even a millisecond that this Policeman has Ebola, not on my pension! This is nothing more than a concerted effort to divert attention away from what has actually taken place---the U.S.' successful nastigram to outsiders seeking medical care by coming here for it. This was the governments way of saying "you all are in for a surprise if you think coming here for treatment is the answer... you'll be isolated, and nature will take its course."

The biggest joke of all is the fact that this Policeman is supposedly experiencing symptoms, when not even a single individual who admittedly had direct contact with this Liberian (all of whom are still quarantined as we speak) have reported any symptoms to speak of!

Ohh, and let's not forget, the director of the CDC said today, that it could take up to 14 days to know for sure if he in fact tests positive.... perfect timing... just long enough to allow all the scutiny with regard to the deceased victim to subside. Gotta love the damage control hijinks.

P.S.- If the deputy does in fact test positive, he will be just fine!
Considering that Mr. Duncan was on a ventilator and was receiving dialysis (both of which involve more risk for the people providing those services than just nursing care), it appears to me that the hospital pulled out all the stops. The drug he received was obtained after an emergency approval for its use - on Oct 6.

Chimerix Announces Emergency Investigational New Drug Applications for Brincidofovir Authorized by FDA for Patients With Ebola Virus Disease

How many dialysis machines are there in Liberia? Did you guess zero? As of this past Sunday?

Please Help David Kpana and His Mother in Their Distress | The Liberian Observer

"However, the doctor cautioned that a dialysis machine will eventually be needed. There is at present no such machine in Liberia."

Your conspiracy theory fails. Mr. Duncan was not just placed in isolation and allowed to die, and your implication is an insult to every person who took care of him - at risk to themselves.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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My .02 cents

I already knew the Liberian guy would perish in Dallas. I was so sure of it, that I was compelled to post my prediction in the Dallas forum days ago, but decided against it out of compassion.

I believe he knew there was a strong possibility that he'd been exposed while helping the pregnant victim in Liberia, and immediately decided to come to the U.S. for treatment in the event that he began experiencing symptoms.

He supposedly came here to "marry his fiancé, and mother of his 19 year old son"- neither of whom he has seen since they left Africa 16 years ago! He wasn't experiencing a fever that would alert medics at the Liberian airport, then lied on the questionnaire to ensure his exit. Once here, he probably thought he'd be in good hands, but no... they waited 6 FULL DAYS before administering experimental treatment.

This looks suspect in the court of worldwide public opinion, given the expeditious treatment (and subsequent recovery) of the Americans who somehow managed to beat this deadly disease. I won't even touch on the fluorescent elephant in the corner with regard to the patients themselves... which brings us to this newfound "second possible victim!"

Deputy with Ebola-like symptoms awaiting CDC results after transport from Frisco CareNow - Dallas Business Journal

Let me be the first to say (I can't suppress these pesky premonitions any longer ) that I don't believe for even a millisecond that this Policeman has Ebola, not on my pension! This is nothing more than a concerted effort to divert attention from what has actually taken place---the U.S.' successful nastigram to outsiders seeking medical care by coming here for it. This was the governments way of saying "you all are in for a surprise if you think coming here for treatment is the answer... you'll be isolated, and nature will take its course."

The biggest joke of all is the fact that this Policeman is supposedly experiencing symptoms, when not even a single individual who admittedly had direct contact with the Liberian (all of whom are still quarantined as we speak) have reported any symptoms to speak of!

Ohh, and let's not forget, the director of the CDC said today, that it could take up to 14 days to know for sure if he in fact tests positive.... perfect timing... just long enough to allow all the scutiny with regard to the deceased victim to subside. Gotta love the damage control hijinks.

P.S.- If the deputy does in fact test positive, he'll be just fine!
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:32 PM
 
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Maybe Tupperware needs to get in the see through casket business. Burp that lid and he'll stay fresh for weeks.
Not a very nice thing to say,,,,,but funny as all hell........Lordy,I'm still laughing..
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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He did not receive zmapp, like the two doctors who survived did, but he did get a different experimental drug, brincidofovir. He wasn't immediately given it, though. It took about a week after he'd been hospitalized before he rec'd it.
Dallas' Ebola patient waited days for experimental drug - CNN.com

Who knows if it would have been more effective if he'd received treatment when he first went to the hospital.
Brincidofovir was not released for compassionate use until Oct 6.

Chimerix Announces Emergency Investigational New Drug Applications for Brincidofovir Authorized by FDA for Patients With Ebola Virus Disease

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Why the differential treatment I wonder.
ZMapp, which has been studied in monkeys with Ebola with good results, was in short supply, soon exhausted. There was none left. Doctors pushed to get the FDA to allow use of the brincidofovir, which was developed to treat entirely different viruses.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:36 PM
 
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But IF the family is intending on complaining about how mistreated he was (or whatever), they can go pound sand. He should have never been allowed in this country and been able to cause all this havoc in the first place!
They have a right to complain because the hospital sent him home the first time and put them at dire risk.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:38 PM
 
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I'm hoping he doesn't test positive, of course. There's a strong likelihood that he has been going crazy with fear ever since walking into that apartment against his strenuous objection. Duncan dying this morning might have tipped him over the edge. I'm sure his stomach has been hurting with utter and complete worry. If anything, he has brought it to the nation's attention that people are being forced to go into areas they consider unsafe without proper protective gear. That's psychological torture IMO.
I thought they said the deputy had a case of food poisoning. I didn't think they were still doing tests on him.
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Old 10-08-2014, 11:43 PM
 
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I thought they said the deputy had a case of food poisoning. I didn't think they were still doing tests on him.
Where did you hear that? I can't find any reports about him having food poisoning.
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