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Excellent point about the other nurse. I still think as a medical professional she shouldn't have flown. When Duncan came to the US we were all up in arms because he was exposed and lied.
This woman knew she was exposed, had a 21 day 'quarantine' and still flew. The fact the CDC told her it was okay boggles my mind. Every medical professional I have talked to said they would lock themselves away in a room for the three weeks until cleared.
A famous medical professional walked around an Ebola ward in Liberia, was filmed in Thomas Duncan's apartment, and had contact with her camera man who is in the Omaha hospital as we speak being treated for Ebola, and yet she was seen breaking quarantine. I'm referring to Dr. Nancy Snyderman, the medical consultant for NBC News.
My guess is this young nurse had tickets to fly to Akron for a while and may have even mentioned it to the powers that be, and was told that as long as she didn't have a fever there was no reason to be worried about infecting anyone. She probably also was assured that she was low risk to get Ebola. People believe what they want to believe.
I was initially angry at Duncan for flying here and I assumed he lied to do it, but I've since decided he probably didn't really know or didn't want to believe. I also feel like it's natural for people to think it couldn't happen to them, or at least try to convince themselves of that.
I have a hard time being mad at this nurse or even Duncan, but I sure am livid at the U.S. government for issuing a tourist visa to Duncan and the thousands since then. And I sure am livid at the federal government response to this crisis.
I find it odd that people blamed Pres. Bush for his Katrina response, and didn't accept the idea that he was waiting for the local and state authorities to ask for national guard before he could send help, and yet now they're saying the same thing about the local and state authorities' response to Ebola in Dallas and the ability of the CDC to deal with this Ebola.
I'm no Bush fan, but I just thought it was ironic.
You can't be serious? There are 53 countries in Africa, and the Ebola is in 3 of them.
Doesn't matter. There is frequent travel between the countries of West Africa. Just because it is in 3 of them doesn't mean it is limited to those 3 countries.
The time to stop the spread of an epidemic is before it gets out of hand. That time is now. Countries within Africa are beginning to stop travel. We should too. Citizens of the 3 countries where there is prevalence should be denied access to our shores completely and immediately.
Thanks. That's how I feel about it too. I find this whole thing fascinating, and I feel terribly for Mr Duncan and I'm not too happy about the hospital administration's poor stewardship of their employees health and well being, but I'm not concerned that any of us GP are in any real danger.
I think we're certainly in less danger than we were before Mr Duncan walked in to TBH. It's pretty obvious that casual contact with an infected person who is not shedding the virus in a dying state is not problematic.
I think it's really really important not to panic and stigmatize because pushing potential cases underground would be the most dangerous scenario, IMHO.
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You do realize that hindsight is 20/20. There's nothing wrong with Frieden admitting that things could have been handled differently, and moving forward with new recommendations. That is the nature of progress.
There should be no 20/20 hindsight or nature of progress excuses, to use those excuses to cover up the fumbling that's been happening is weak. The CDC has been studying ebola for decades. During those decades of research one would think that the CDC could/should have come up with a rock solid plan to implement if ebola ended up in a first world country, a plan that covers far more than just sending a memo to first world hospitals, including the hospital that was, for the first time in its history, treating an ebola patient.
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Although I am very impressed with all the Monday Morning Quarterbacks here that have such extensive knowledge of infection control and governance of communicable disease.
Welcome to the MMQ group, and, thanks for you MMQ input.
Duncan didn't even know he had Ebola. He had helped a sick women but didn't they say they thought she had malaria? He had the tickets and must have had the visa quite a while in advance of his trip. I don't blame him as much as I blame that nurse who KNEW she had been exposed, had medical training and knowledge, was supposed to be in quarantine, and still hopped on a plane.
Doesn't matter. There is frequent travel between the countries of West Africa. Just because it is in 3 of them doesn't mean it is limited to those 3 countries.
The time to stop the spread of an epidemic is before it gets out of hand. That time is now. Countries within Africa are beginning to stop travel. We should too. Citizens of the 3 countries where there is prevalence should be denied access to our shores completely and immediately.
Actually, I believe all the other countries in western Africa had the good sense to shut their borders with the three affected countries.
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