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Old 05-03-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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I just read on twitter the camera in the back of the paddy wagon was not in working order.


Lisa Bloom@LisaBloom · 7h7 hours ago
Baltimore Sun reports video camera in Freddie Gray police van was broken. In several of my excessive force cases cameras have been "broken."
Funny how that camera is always broken when someone ends up dead in police custody.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:07 PM
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Location: Tennessee
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Maybe they should hook the cameras up using the ACLU app, that uploads the video as it happens, so nobody can accidentally break it later.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:35 PM
 
Location: West Hollywood
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Good lord, you criminal apologist people who believe that everybody who's not rushing to blame 6 (at this point innocent) cops for murder throw all common sense,critical thinking AND the legal premise of "innocent until proven guilty" out the window just to promote your agenda...
What agenda? And how am I throwing common sense and critical thinking to the wind? I'm not the one trying to blame heroin and weed for a severed spine and crushed throat. You clearly have an agenda of blaming the victim. All evidence points at the officers but you decided to ignore evidence and shut your brain off just to side with the cops. It has nothing to do with "innocence until proven guilty" and everything to do with common decency and critical thinking.

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Let me ask this, if all of Freddie's arrests don't mean squat because he was not convicted, which has been said here many,many times then how exactly are the cops guilty because they were charged and not (yet) convicted?
Is the benefit of the doubt only given to those without a badge and no prior arrests?
Freddie Gray's arrests don't mean squat because he wasn't killed by his rap sheet, he was killed by the police, be it through a failure to follow proper procedure or through sheer malice. He's dead because of what the police did to him and at every stage of these events the police did everything wrong. They arrested him without cause, they gave him a "rough ride" to abuse him, they ignored his pleas for help and screams of agony, and they falsified reports to cover up their crimes. You cannot argue against these points because this is what the evidence shows. Until there's new evidence that shows otherwise you're just spinning yarns and making excuses for bad cops.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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What agenda? And how am I throwing common sense and critical thinking to the wind? I'm not the one trying to blame heroin and weed for a severed spine and crushed throat. You clearly have an agenda of blaming the victim. All evidence points at the officers but you decided to ignore evidence and shut your brain off just to side with the cops. It has nothing to do with "innocence until proven guilty" and everything to do with common decency and critical thinking.



Freddie Gray's arrests don't mean squat because he wasn't killed by his rap sheet, he was killed by the police, be it through a failure to follow proper procedure or through sheer malice. He's dead because of what the police did to him and at every stage of these events the police did everything wrong. They arrested him without cause, they gave him a "rough ride" to abuse him, they ignored his pleas for help and screams of agony, and they falsified reports to cover up their crimes. You cannot argue against these points because this is what the evidence shows. Until there's new evidence that shows otherwise you're just spinning yarns and making excuses for bad cops.




Excellent post, especially the bolded portion.
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Old 05-03-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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What agenda? And how am I throwing common sense and critical thinking to the wind? I'm not the one trying to blame heroin and weed for a severed spine and crushed throat. You clearly have an agenda of blaming the victim. All evidence points at the officers but you decided to ignore evidence and shut your brain off just to side with the cops. It has nothing to do with "innocence until proven guilty" and everything to do with common decency and critical thinking.



Freddie Gray's arrests don't mean squat because he wasn't killed by his rap sheet, he was killed by the police, be it through a failure to follow proper procedure or through sheer malice. He's dead because of what the police did to him and at every stage of these events the police did everything wrong. They arrested him without cause, they gave him a "rough ride" to abuse him, they ignored his pleas for help and screams of agony, and they falsified reports to cover up their crimes. You cannot argue against these points because this is what the evidence shows. Until there's new evidence that shows otherwise you're just spinning yarns and making excuses for bad cops.
Yes! Yes! And Yes! Great post!
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:10 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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but as you wait for the facts will you also keep offering opinions?
Just like you are.
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Old 05-03-2015, 03:31 PM
 
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The plot isn't thickening; the wheels in the head of a certain type of person is just working overtime in an attempt to undervalue a lost black life. We've seen white supremacy attempt to justify the unjustifiable time after time. It's not going to work this time...


###Blacklivesmatter
Exactly!
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Old 05-03-2015, 04:35 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Thank you for your very well put together post to remind me that my old eye's aren't working too well So I guess the one thing I did point out that he was never in possession of a firearm since 2007 @ age 17. was correct, right? Since I didn't find that in your correction points

Thanks again, I stand corrected in a very nice manner
I didn't see anything about a firearm in there either, you're correct about that particular point.
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Old 05-03-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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Just like you are.

Yes but I didn't, ah, never mind.
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Old 05-03-2015, 07:06 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I just read on twitter the camera in the back of the paddy wagon was not in working order.


Lisa Bloom@LisaBloom · 7h7 hours ago
Baltimore Sun reports video camera in Freddie Gray police van was broken. In several of my excessive force cases cameras have been "broken."
You realize the term "paddy wagon" is thought of as an ethnic slur right?

The word paddy wagon is of American origin. The precise origin of the term is uncertain and disputed, though its use dates back to the 1800s.[1]

There are at least three theories as how the phrase originated.

The most prevalent theory is based on the term "Paddy" a common Irish shortening of Padraig, (Patrick in English), which was most often used as an ethnic slur to refer to Irish people.[2] Irishmen made up a large percentage of the officers of early police forces in many American cities. Thus, this theory suggests that the concentration of Irish in the police forces led to the term "paddy wagon" being used to describe the vehicles driven by police.
An alternative theory is similarly based on the term "Paddy" but states that the term arose due to the allegedly high crime level among Irish immigrants.

Police van - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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