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Wow you couldn't have gotten it more wrong. So ... what you're trying to say is that black on black gang violence would have gotten 400+ posts? As if that never happens and we're all just sitting around here speculating about how America would react to it. Lol. Gosh I wonder what the media and internet forums would do if that unicorn of black-on-black gang violence ever showed its face?
Isn't it exactly the opposite that's odd? Epidemic level black-on-black gang violence has been going on for just a little while now and white people don't say anything much about it and black people sure enough don't go protesting in the streets about it. White on white violence (Hispanic too) like in Waco occurs and pretty much everybody goes "F those thugs." And yet ... If a white cop or even just a civilian kills a black person the streets erupt with howls of racism. Don't find that odd?
Just what pray tell, would constitute the appropriate level of white outrage for you? Would you be happier if we took to the streets about the systemic injustices that drove these men to be the scumbags that they are? Most people I know think that mentality is contemptible. You own what you do. If thugs kill thugs and maybe the cops get a few of them too then good. Live by the sword and you die by the sword.
Oh and that last little doozy of yours about these men having more access to resources and privileges than any other group in history ... blah blah boilerplate white privilege drivel blah blah. Have you ever known any bikers? Any lower class white people? Rural whites raised in poverty? That's more the outlaw biker demographic ... not kids of yuppie professionals who went into the talented and gifted programs at age six then took A.P. college courses in high school to assure a 5.0 gpa and a foot in the door of the Ivy League. Guess what? White thugs come up pretty much the same way as black thugs.
As I said, just go look at the thread about the brawl in the Memphis high school....look at the reactions of people to that crime, where no one but other blacks got hurt (and no one used guns) but pitchforks are out in full force and blame extends far beyond the school and students, and compare it to the reaction here, where only the bikers got hurt and no one is blaming the global "white community" or even thinks its a big deal. The anger and hate in that thread is palpably different. There they are savages, unfit to live in this country...here one poster a few posts ago actually called these gang members "varmints", which sounds like it's just a tad harsher than "scamps". There is a reason for it but apparently "denial" isn't just a river.
I can assure you that there are no 1%ers posting racist things on the C-D. How do I know this? There are no 1%ers here. They got better things to do, like campaigning to be the next PTA President at their kid's $40,000 per year elementary school.
Mick
Are you confusing the 1%er biker club with with top 1% of people in the US?
Classic waldokitty. If you can't make sound logical contribution, ignore the facts and counter with something completely irrelevant. Lol. Cheers mate. Just wanted to remind you that not everyone is buying whatever it is you are trying to sell. Carry on And no I'm not here for e-victories. I have better things to do with my life.
IrrelIf you want to be taken seriously, especially by me, then you should start your posts out with something than immediately crying "racist" and accusing me of having an IQ of 10. Do that and I don't even bother to read whatever it was you posted, because you immediately discredited yourself.
Logical discussion, since you bring it up, does not require insult as a tactic. That only comes in when you can make no such argument.
Whites committing crime = representing themselves as individuals (no negative stigma).
Blacks committing crime = representing the entire Black race (negative stigma).
No doubt, there are double standards but I don't see anyone defending the White and Mexican bikers. You won't see a Rev Al equivalent defending these thugs.
The Bandidos, the Scimitars and the Cossacks motorcycle clubs apparently have a disagreement and are settling these matters in their traditional way.
As long as no private citizens are being killed in the matter, I don't think its really a big deal.
The problem with that line of thinking is bullets don't magically stop at the parking lot perimeter, they travel on until something gets in their way.
Having been on the periphery of a couple 1% groups years ago and having friends who were members I would avoid any area where the 1%'ers are as I know what can happen in an instant.
Not all patch wearing leather vested bikers are bad, one way to quickly spot "the good from the not so good" is simply by looking at the patch.
If it's a 3 piece patch, top rocker,main patch,bottom rocker all separate then it's a "sanctioned" (Outlaw) group.
If it's a one piece patch their just a group not a "gang".
This was just more murders by cops! Second only to the last Waco massacre by cops where they slaughtered men, women and children of the Branch Davidians. All of you posters can whine about thug this and thug that, but I'd bet that cops instigated the whole thing. Everybody that got killed was shot by the police! But carry on with the usual BS. Why care about what really happened?
You know that all those that died were shot by cops HOW?
I am sure the ballistics report will tell us the whole truth. And according to early reports knives were in play also. Not too many cops I know carry service knives. Autopsy results may be in by the end of the month and the truth will be known..
Your point has been well made even though the poster you're chatting with refuses to acknowledge it. Had this been Black bikers this thread would have numbered around 400+ posts by now. Comments would have been made such as "why can't Blacks live as civilized people?", "blame it on Black parents lack of parenting skills", "all the government aid and assistance wasted on them and look how they live", "Black savages", and other comments in that vein. Meanwhile, here there is no outrage by White posters (other than a couple) about the violence these White men have committed. These were adult men not teen boys or underprivileged fatherless youths but men who have access to more resources and privileges then any other group in the history of this country.
I don't back away from criticizing my own when they're at fault but I also will criticize others as well. I don't have a problem when Whites demonized Black criminals because the truth is the truth regardless of who says it. However, I see those same posters sentiments change when it's White demons involved and that is disgusting. They are not using race as a factor for the behavior of these murderous grown men but are quick to use it when it's Blacks or other groups. How hypocritical!
Huh? You seriously think most people give a rat's patooty when violent a-holes start killing each other off? Really? I'm here to tell you, they don't. In fact, it'd be just great if they wiped themselves out. Color isn't the issue. Behavior IS. Black on black violence gets hardly a eyebrow raise its so common. Only time people say stuff like that (what you said above) is when there are innocent victims. Seriously. Your post makes little sense to me.
The problem with that line of thinking is bullets don't magically stop at the parking lot perimeter, they travel on until something gets in their way.
Having been on the periphery of a couple 1% groups years ago and having friends who were members I would avoid any area where the 1%'ers are as I know what can happen in an instant.
Not all patch wearing leather vested bikers are bad, one way to quickly spot "the good from the not so good" is simply by looking at the patch.
If it's a 3 piece patch, top rocker,main patch,bottom rocker all separate then it's a "sanctioned" (Outlaw) group. If it's a one piece patch their just a group not a "gang".
So the wild Hogs aren't a gang
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