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You should be thankful that he's a real man - one who will defend you.
I do want a real man...one who can defend me when I am in danger, but is in control of his emotions enough to know when physical violence is warranted, not just react like a wild animal who got poked. Sorry, had my share of hot heads in my past, you can keep them.
Nobody should be able to hurl insults at someone who has not provoked them, without fear of repercussions.
When someone steps out of place, they should be put back into their place. And remember that some people don't learn any way other than by force.
Most people are too immature to control their emotions. Generally, I don't believe that violence is an appropriate response to an insult. Plus, that only works until you run into someone who is armed or too much for you to handle physically.
Only because he didn't deliver a kick in the nuts. You insult my mom, to her face? I'm gonna hurt you.
My mom has been dead for several years, but she approves this message.
Most people are too immature to control their emotions. Generally, I don't believe that violence is an appropriate response to an insult. Plus, that only works until you run into someone who is armed or too much for you to handle physically.
Right...if the insulter had had a gun, and shot the guy who was punching him, he would not have been convicted, because he was being attacked...the guy shot would have no recourse because no court would recognize a verbal insult as sufficient provocation to attack...because it's not.
Right...if the insulter had had a gun, and shot the guy who was punching him, he would not have been convicted, because he was being attacked...the guy shot would have no recourse because no court would recognize a verbal insult as sufficient provocation to attack...because it's not.
Actually, he may very well HAVE been convicted. Somewhat OT discussion to follow:
Listen up folks, this is important. The general rule in the case of lethal self defense is that the person who resorted to lethal self defense MUST be completely innocent of any wrongdoing. You don't get to start an altercation, then use lethal self defense when the altercation doesn't go your way. You're expected to avoid starting an altercation in the first place. (If you stop to think about it, this makes sense. If someone tries to mug me, I respond by fighting back and I'm winning, and the now-fearful mugger then shoots or stabs me, should the mugger be able to claim he acted in self defense? Of course not!)
And here's the thing: "starting an altercation" isn't limited to physical actions, it also includes verbal ones. If I start mouthing off to someone, and in response that person begins to give me a beatdown, I am NOT permitted to draw my firearm and shoot him. I voided my right to self-defense when I decided to pick a fight with the other guy. It doesn't matter in the eyes of the law that my initiation of the fight was verbal rather than physical. Since I was carrying a deadly weapon, I knew (even if the other guy did not) that any confrontation could turn lethal, and I'm expected to do my utmost to keep out of those situations.
So no mouthing off to other people, or flipping them the bird, etc., when you're armed. You WILL be regarded by the court as having started the incident, and you will in all likelihood lose.
(There is an exception to this general rule: if I make a reasonable effort to cool things down after my ill-considered remark ("Hey, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that...") and try to retreat, I may be able to successfully claim self-defense if I have to subsequently use my gun. Likewise, a significant lapse in time resets things (a half-hour after I deliberately insulted you, you attack me), because it's presumed that the other person has had time to cool down and think things over. But in general, if you result to lethal force, you'd damned well better be able to prove in court that you had no role whatsoever in provoking the incident, or you're toast. If you're going to carry a gun, you MUST know how to keep your mouth zipped and how to walk away from trouble.)
Think that over in terms of this situation. There were no doubt multiple witnesses who'd be able to testify that 50 Year Old Jerk began the incident, and that nothing would have happened if he'd kept his mouth closed. So much for his self defense claim.
Actually, he may very well HAVE been convicted. Somewhat OT discussion to follow:
Listen up folks, this is important. The general rule in the case of lethal self defense is that the person who resorted to lethal self defense MUST be completely innocent of any wrongdoing. You don't get to start an altercation, then use lethal self defense when the altercation doesn't go your way. You're expected to avoid starting an altercation in the first place. (If you stop to think about it, this makes sense. If someone tries to mug me, I respond by fighting back and I'm winning, and the now-fearful mugger then shoots or stabs me, should the mugger be able to claim he acted in self defense? Of course not!)
And here's the thing: "starting an altercation" isn't limited to physical actions, it also includes verbal ones. If I start mouthing off to someone, and in response that person begins to give me a beatdown, I am NOT permitted to draw my firearm and shoot him. I voided my right to self-defense when I decided to pick a fight with the other guy. It doesn't matter in the eyes of the law that my initiation of the fight was verbal rather than physical. Since I was carrying a deadly weapon, I knew (even if the other guy did not) that any confrontation could turn lethal, and I'm expected to do my utmost to keep out of those situations.
So no mouthing off to other people, or flipping them the bird, etc., when you're armed. You WILL be regarded by the court as having started the incident, and you will in all likelihood lose.
(There is an exception to this general rule: if I make a reasonable effort to cool things down after my ill-considered remark ("Hey, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that...") and try to retreat, I may be able to successfully claim self-defense if I have to subsequently use my gun. Likewise, a significant lapse in time resets things (a half-hour after I deliberately insulted you, you attack me), because it's presumed that the other person has had time to cool down and think things over. But in general, if you result to lethal force, you'd damned well better be able to prove in court that you had no role whatsoever in provoking the incident, or you're toast. If you're going to carry a gun, you MUST know how to keep your mouth zipped and how to walk away from trouble.)
Think that over in terms of this situation. There were no doubt multiple witnesses who'd be able to testify that 50 Year Old Jerk began the incident, and that nothing would have happened if he'd kept his mouth closed. So much for his self defense claim.
Our definitions of starting an altercation are different. He didn't say "hey, fatty, stop being a pig", he said "You really shouldn't be eating that pizza". Stupid, yes, but well meaning, not intending to start a fight. I doubt any court would okay a beating in response to that. Regardless, both parties would be embroiled in a legal battle that would leave all their lives ruined for years and years....when all they had to do was mutter "a**hole" and walk away.
Our definitions of starting an altercation are different. He didn't say "hey, fatty, stop being a pig", he said "You really shouldn't be eating that pizza". Stupid, yes, but well meaning, not intending to start a fight. I doubt any court would okay a beating in response to that, sorry.
Oh for cryin out loud. How old are you? unless he has autism or Tourette's, or was raised by wolves, common politeness and decency should have kept his mouth shut.
And here's the thing: "starting an altercation" isn't limited to physical actions, it also includes verbal ones. If I start mouthing off to someone, and in response that person begins to give me a beatdown, I am NOT permitted to draw my firearm and shoot him.
Tell that to Trayvon Martin.
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