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You disrespect a cop, regardless of skin color, you are in big trouble..
I hope you understand this is exactly why the police are the problem. The police are supposed to be professionals who can deal with impolite members of the public without resorting to threats and violence.
We as ordinary citizens do not use violence when we don't get our way instantly. But that is exactly what cops are doing, they are escalating otherwise safe and normal incidents to the point where they can justify murder or torture.
We have thousands of cops on video, where they are hurting members of the public for no real reason at all.
And yet still a large percentage of the public believe the Pasco WA murder was self defense....
I hope you understand this is exactly why the police are the problem. The police are supposed to be professionals who can deal with impolite members of the public without resorting to threats and violence.
We as ordinary citizens do not use violence when we don't get our way instantly. [snip]
You and I have no idea what it is like to deal daily with the dregs of society: the drunk, the armed, the violent, the cop killer.
The police have my respect and support, not criminals. And believe me, I have and always will do what they say when they say it and respectful at all times to an officer of the law.
^^^ x2 Excellent work Pedro and thank you for the time you took to do the research. I am SO tired of these anti-police threads. Imagine if we all listed the times that the police came to our aid.
My son with Down syndrome got out of the high school and wandered away. Although 15 years old, he functions at the level of a pre-schooler. The police located him after a call by a health care worker who thought he needed help. They managed to work with him, not easy since his communication skills are so bad and bring him home from the highway/railroad tracks where he had wandered. Had they not swiftly located him............
I found a little boy wandering once, probably 2 years old in a diaper. I called the police station where they calmed me down because I had no idea what to do and was afraid someone would think that I abducted the child. They came out and picked the little boy up and went around the neighborhood finally locating a distraught parent looking for the little boy.
When my oldest son was in high school, we got a call from the police department and they said our son had been beat up on his way home and they had him and for us to come pick him up. They were very nice and caring with my son who had to be scared. A female soldier saw him being beaten and yelled until they stopped and then she called the police and went and checked on him.
I wouldn't be in law enforcement for all the money in the world. The dangers they face not to mention this constant disrespect, there just isn't enough money to have to deal with that to me. I am SO glad that there are people who can do the job. People sometimes make mistakes on the job even physicians do that and lives are lost but do we just not have them? Just be glad some still step up.
All the times the police are there to help yet these threads just keep popping up. I am guessing a lot of people don't like it that their friends or relatives run into trouble with the law and refuse to admit that it was not the fault of the law but of the friends or relatives.
I respect law enforcement officers and the jobs they do. No family ever in the field or friends - we are farmers and factory workers.
You disrespect a cop, regardless of skin color, you are in big trouble.
This is AMERICA. The county was quite literally founded on an absolutely flagrant disrespect of British governmental authority. You see, your totalitarian sentiment might be the way that the Russian "justice" system is supposed to work, or perhaps that of a banana republic. You disrespect government authority, and you are subsequently worthy of summary execution. But this is America. We have a mistrust of government forces encoded into our very founding document. "Innocent until proven guilty" implies automatically that it is our duty as patriotic Americans to assume that police are wrong when they bring charges against citizens of this country. Sadly, that sentiment has been perverted by political leaders, and adopted by the less thoughtful members of this country, yourself included, to mean "submit, or die."
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Uh huh.
THAT, my friend, is how you win an argument. Attempt not to disprove my assertions with verifiable facts, but continue on your clueless path. Then, one day, when the police state comes for you, you'll be damned sorry you didn't speak up sooner. As Martin Niemoller famously said:
"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
One day, your apologias for authority will result in the above being true of you. And when it does, you'll think back to this conversation and say "damn, that guy on the internet was right."
Or maybe not, since it "can't happen in this country, we have a constitution." Which, of course, Obama and Bush respected so thoroughly!
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You and I have no idea what it is like to deal daily with the dregs of society: the drunk, the armed, the violent, the cop killer.
The police have my respect and support, not criminals. And believe me, I have and always will do what they say when they say it and respectful at all times to an officer of the law.
27 police were killed in the line of duty last year. Of those, several were merely traffic accidents. But if we pretend that they were all at the hands of gun-toting criminals, and we consider that there are slightly over 800,000 sworn officers in the nation, that brings us to a homicide rate against cops of roughly 3.375 police per hundred thousand. You are significantly more at risk of being killed simply living in most major metro areas in the United States. This does not, and will not, justify the members of those same metro areas shooting each other every time an encounter escalates.
Not to mention, ALL of the police in ALL other industrialized countries deal with the same dregs, the same criminals, the same armed buffoons prone to violence. And nowhere but here do the valiant badasses that fancy themselves "law" enforcers feel the need to shoot and kill so many.
Maybe, if you scratch your head all the way through to your skull and think REALLY hard, you could wrap your head around a thought 1/2 as base as "Badge says do something... must comply."
"I'm not doing anything wrong, so I have nothing to hide and nothing to worry about" - Most every GULAG deportee in Russian history.
So now you are comparing American cops with the KGB? Why not go a step further and compare them with the Nazis?
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No family ever in the field or friends - we are farmers and factory workers.
