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Governmental action and action of state actors is not at all correlated to that of a private entity. The clerk should be fired.
It is two sides of the same coin though, but you already knew that... Both refused to serve homosexuals though done clerks took it to a new level by not even serving heterosexual couples from getting their marriage license. Both deny civil rights. The business owner has the rift to discriminate if there is a problem like say someone is causing a physical disturbance. My question to you, is asking for a cake for a homosexual marriage a disturbance?
It is two sides of the same coin though, but you already knew that... Both refused to serve homosexuals though done clerks took it to a new level by not even serving heterosexual couples from getting their marriage license. Both deny civil rights. The business owner has the rift to discriminate if there is a problem like say someone is causing a physical disturbance. My question to you, is asking for a cake for a homosexual marriage a disturbance?
You have a fundamental right to governmental services wihout cosideration of your sex skin color etc. You do not have a fundamental right to be served by a privately owned business. The two are not on the same coin.
Just as city data can censor posts freely without violating freedom of speech a government censorship is a violation
You have a fundamental right to governmental services wihout cosideration of your sex skin color etc. You do not have a fundamental right to be served by a privately owned business. The two are not on the same coin.
Just as city data can censor posts freely without violating freedom of speech a government censorship is a violation
The problem you seem to miss is that the baker was fined for exposing the couple's personal info online thereby violating the law.
The fact that the baker thought a "gay wedding cake" had different ingredients than the "straight wedding cake" is really sad. I would never buy a wedding cake from them, probably not going to taste very good if they don't know that both cakes use the same ingredients.
A business is there to make money. To refuse to take money for such a stupid reason is also really sad. They don't like "gay money" when it is about a wedding cake...er... "gay wedding cake" but they WILL (and did) take "gay money" for donuts.
So you think that is not discriminatory to let them purchase a cake but donuts are fine?
The problem you seem to miss is that the baker was fined for exposing the couple's personal info online thereby violating the law.
The fact that the baker thought a "gay wedding cake" had different ingredients than the "straight wedding cake" is really sad. I would never buy a wedding cake from them, probably not going to taste very good if they don't know that both cakes use the same ingredients.
A business is there to make money. To refuse to take money for such a stupid reason is also really sad. They don't like "gay money" when it is about a wedding cake...er... "gay wedding cake" but they WILL (and did) take "gay money" for donuts.
So you think that is not discriminatory to let them purchase a cake but donuts are fine?
Is it discriminatory for them to refuse any of their business? Yes. Do I support discrimination? No (in fact I would never do business with this shop or any other similar shop I gladly support gay marriage. ). Should that be legal for them to discriminate? Yes.
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I do not support gay marriage
I support the right of anyone to not serve anyone else... capitolism is so strong any void will quickly be filled in search of the dollar or the niche
This is nothing more than PC crap
I voted for prop 8.. which when agreed upon by the majority was negated by a small group of liberal activist judges telling the rest of us
...your votes don't count and you will think only what we want you to think.
I hope these people close up.. go bankrupt ..and never give one cent to the lawyers and bloodsucking activists
It always amazes me that you are a cop. No wonder there is so much anti police sentiment in the country.
Is it discriminatory for them to refuse any of their business? Yes. Do I support discrimination? No (in fact I would never do business with this shop or any other similar shop I gladly support gay marriage. ). Should that be legal for them to discriminate? Yes.
You do not support discrimination but believe they should be able to discriminate. Holy hypocrites Batman! Seriously though, that is a hypocritical stance because you are supporting discrimination by being in favor of a business' right to discriminate when you yourself don't personally support it.
I do not support gay marriage
I support the right of anyone to not serve anyone else... capitolism is so strong any void will quickly be filled in search of the dollar or the niche
This is nothing more than PC crap
I voted for prop 8.. which when agreed upon by the majority was negated by a small group of liberal activist judges telling the rest of us
...your votes don't count and you will think only what we want you to think.
I hope these people close up.. go bankrupt ..and never give one cent to the lawyers and bloodsucking activists
Or deliver an unwanted cake to the gay couple on a weekly basis with a biblical verse written on it.
If confronted, say you wanted to show no hard feelings and want to share your side of things after being trounced in public.
You do not support discrimination but believe they should be able to discriminate. Holy hypocrites Batman! Seriously though, that is a hypocritical stance because you are supporting discrimination by being in favor of a business' right to discriminate when you yourself don't personally support it.
So it is also hypocritical to oppose hate speech lets say the WBC but support their right to do so? No, that is F**** retarded nothing hypocritical about supporting free speech while not supporting a specific speech, yet recognizing that the speech is constitutionally protected. .
Your understanding of logic is to say the least greatly flawed. My view is consistent.
One does not have to agree with a specific action to support someones right to undertake that action. This is not complicated.
I oppose WBC's speech. I support their right to express it. Please illustrate the hypocrisy here for me.
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Seriously though, that is a hypocritical stance because you are supporting discrimination by being in favor of a business' right to discriminate when you yourself don't personally support it.
