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Old 11-08-2015, 01:10 AM
 
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If a slot machine goes bad the payout should be something like a percentage of the max payout for the amount play or say $500 whichever is less. That way even if the lose they win.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:43 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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Just out of curiosity, what do Vegas casinos do in the cases of malfunction? They must have a policy. I would agree that U.S. laws don't apply on tribal land. But what about casinos that are not on reservations?

If it happened to me, I would get a Native American lawyer and have him/her negotiate on my behalf.
I have only gambled a few times in my life, but I actually remember to the word what disclaimer printed on slot machines reads:

"Malfunction Voids All Plays and Pays."

My wife and I went to the casino a few months back and played the quarter slots. The last time I had gone was a few years ago, then a few years before that. I have noticed a marked difference in frequency of the payouts on the machines. Each subsequent time, I heard fewer and fewer bells and whistles of machine winners. I believe the casinos have tightened payout rates on the slots and big wins are now nearly impossible. But it's no skin off my nose. My wife and I find gambling deadly dull and a waste of money. The last time we went to the casino the only reason we took the trip was because our friend got a speeding ticket and wanted to celebrate this event by going gambling. She and our other friends gambled all day. My wife and I got bored after three hours and went to Starbucks and shopping the other five hours they were playing the machines.
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Old 11-08-2015, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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IMHO - If the machine said it owes you 8 million dollars the casino owes you 8 million dollars. Weather the machine is working correctly of not is the casino's concern. That is part of the risk being taken by the casino. Gambling is a double edge sword. Either player can loose. The casino should pay up.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Coastal Mid-Atlantic
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This casino is operated by the Chehalis tribe. About Us | Lucky Eagle Casino My understanding is that casinos owned by Native American tribes don't operate under the same rules as casinos in places such as Las Vegas. You don't have the same options to pursue a legal remedy like you would against federally rated casino. True or not, the Native American casinos have had a reputation for 'malfunctions'. A lot of people avoid them.
How many million buffalo did the white man kill.
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Old 11-08-2015, 07:07 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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How many million buffalo did the white man kill.
What does that have to do with Indian Casino's?
Is there a Casino game where you get to kill buffalo? What do you win, 500 lbs of meat?
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: So. of Rosarito, Baja, Mexico
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Has been quite a few yrs since I played the slots. What I noticed was that there were more fine lines for the wheels to stop at. Once thought I had won while the floor girl said I had NOT even though they looked to be straight across....the FINE LINE.

So instead of 360 lines in the wheel they increased them to 720 for a better term.....we are losers.
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Old 11-08-2015, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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This reminds me of lottery scratcher stories where people think they won but it was really a "misprint".
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Looking over your shoulder
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IMHO - If the machine said it owes you 8 million dollars the casino owes you 8 million dollars. Weather the machine is working correctly of not is the casino's concern. That is part of the risk being taken by the casino. Gambling is a double edge sword. Either player can loose. The casino should pay up.
^^^ I agree!

I don’t often play the slots,,,, however nearly all the time the machines malfunction in favor of the casino and keep taking my money. They never come around to tell me that “the machine failed and owes you $$$ back”. I wonder why? Yet if it fails in favor of the player, they don’t pay out and keep the money; they'll continue to let you play on a defective machine as long as you can continue to feed it. I guess I’m not ever again going to a casino to throw away money again.
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Old 11-08-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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Has been quite a few yrs since I played the slots. What I noticed was that there were more fine lines for the wheels to stop at. Once thought I had won while the floor girl said I had NOT even though they looked to be straight across....the FINE LINE.

So instead of 360 lines in the wheel they increased them to 720 for a better term.....we are losers.
Historically, slot machines have typically been just about the worst odds in the house.

When I was a kid, my father got ahold of an old nickel slot from the early 1900s. When we took it apart, we found that the jackpot had been bolted out (the mechanism was mechanical and bolts had been installed in the holes for the jackpot payout). After removing the bolts, I played with that machine for hours and hours and hours, recycling the nickels. I got an excellent education on how they work...meaning that I learned that they are a guaranteed money-maker for the house. Later, I studied just about everything that John Scarne wrote in regard to gambling. The odds are even worse on the newer electronic machines, they are for suckers.

Only one time have I 'played' a slot machine in a casino, it was the first time I took my wife to one. I was headed for the craps tables and, of course, we had to pass by the slots. She wanted to stop and play them, but I explained how foolish it was. Still, she insisted, saying "But, I want to see somebody win." So I took a few quarters out of my pocket and on about the second or third pull the machine paid out a good bunch of quarters (I didn't count them). I stuffed my pockets and started walking away. She asked "Aren't you going to play anymore now that you've got a whole buch of quarters?"

My response was "You said that you wanted to see somebody win. Well, you just saw somebody win, and this is the only way to stay a winner at slots, you take the money and walk away."

Some of the best odds in the house are found at the craps tables, and if you know what you are doing and manage your bets and your money well you stand a chance of coming out ahead...or, at least, not losing too badly. Hint: never touch the dice and stay away from the sucker bets. Pass/Don't Pass only (smallest edge for the House is on Don't Pass), sometimes Come/Don't Come can be a reasonable option.
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Old 11-08-2015, 10:09 AM
 
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IMHO - If the machine said it owes you 8 million dollars the casino owes you 8 million dollars. Weather the machine is working correctly of not is the casino's concern. That is part of the risk being taken by the casino. Gambling is a double edge sword. Either player can loose. The casino should pay up.
Sorry, but that's just crap. The machines ALWAYS list the maximum payout possible. If the electronics say you won more, it is is a glitch in the electronics and NOT the fault OR the responsibility of the casino.

By your reckoning if you buy a Big Mac at McDonalds, hand the cashier a $10 bill, and the cash register says your change is $10,000.00, you feel you are owed that money? Same exact thing. Electronic error, not super payday for you.
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