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Old 11-09-2015, 10:27 AM
 
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Technically, the casino has a point if it were a malfunction and the machine itself had a warning that malfunctions voided any winnings. But I certainly think the casino could have done better than give her 80 bucks in compensation.
I wonder how many times the machine malfunctioned and someone who should have won didn't.

Obviously, the person who should have "won" wouldn't have know it, and I'm guessing no internal audit tracked them down to pay out the millions.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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It amazes me how myopic the bean counters are. What the casino should have done is profusely apologized for getting her hopes up with the malfunctioning read-out, given the lady at least half the maximum payout for which that machine was eligible (as a "gesture of goodwill"), and comped her meals. She would have gone home and told everyone she knew about how generous the Lucky Eagle Casino was. The word would spread, and they'd draw in some extra customers, who would pour enough quarters into the slots to make up their loss, and then some.

But instead, the lady will go home angry and tell everyone what a bunch of filthy rotten crooks they are, and urge everyone to never go there again. Sure, the regulars will still keep going. But people on the margins, the ones who are deciding whether to go gambling or do something else with their entertainment dollar, these folks might decide that it's not worth it.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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A few years ago, one of the big lotteries (Mega Millions or Powerball) did a drawing, and afterwards discovered that one of the balls had gotten stuck and thus could not have been drawn. So what did they do? Fixed the ball, then re-ran the drawing . . . and paid out to ALL winners of both the faulty drawing and the corrected one.

THAT'S how you handle a malfunction.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:59 AM
 
Location: La Mesa Aka The Table
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Please look up how to sue an Indian Casino and let us all know how one wins. You think Casino odds are bad, compared to suing them the Casino's would look like they're shoveling $$$$ out the doors daily.
I Found 2 successful cases right here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4...=RDdQw4w9WgXcQ

It Is Possible to sue a Indian Casino and win. She needs to find a Lawyer that is Recognized By the Indian Tribal Court as,Indian Reservation laws are different.

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Old 11-09-2015, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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YA AND I BELIEVE THIS!!!


They just dont wanna pay up...... THEY NEED TO PAY HER EVERY DIME!!!!!!!!!! (She could probably win a lawsuit here)
She's legally screwed because it is a Native American casino under Native American jurisdiction and law.

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Time for her to "Lawyer Up"
Only if the law for the specific tribe would be favourable towards her. Otherwise it is a waste of time and more money.

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Please look up how to sue an Indian Casino and let us all know how one wins. You think Casino odds are bad, compared to suing them the Casino's would look like they're shoveling $$$$ out the doors daily.
I rather not. I maybe do casinos once every two years on average. Mainly for fun slots and video poker. Maybe video craps too but that's it. I'm not a big gambler, I rather see movies.
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Old 11-09-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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It amazes me how myopic the bean counters are. What the casino should have done is profusely apologized for getting her hopes up with the malfunctioning read-out, given the lady at least half the maximum payout for which that machine was eligible (as a "gesture of goodwill"), and comped her meals. She would have gone home and told everyone she knew about how generous the Lucky Eagle Casino was. The word would spread, and they'd draw in some extra customers, who would pour enough quarters into the slots to make up their loss, and then some.

But instead, the lady will go home angry and tell everyone what a bunch of filthy rotten crooks they are, and urge everyone to never go there again. Sure, the regulars will still keep going. But people on the margins, the ones who are deciding whether to go gambling or do something else with their entertainment dollar, these folks might decide that it's not worth it.
Or perhaps a comparable casino in the same area. Arizona has several so if one were to do this, those on the fringe could go elsewhere.

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A few years ago, one of the big lotteries (Mega Millions or Powerball) did a drawing, and afterwards discovered that one of the balls had gotten stuck and thus could not have been drawn. So what did they do? Fixed the ball, then re-ran the drawing . . . and paid out to ALL winners of both the faulty drawing and the corrected one.

THAT'S how you handle a malfunction.
Some will go that route, others will Rob them blind.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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As if I needed another reason not to go to casinos. So...you're telling me that casinos are possibly CROOKED?

*shocked*
They really do not to be crooked, they make enough money legitimately.

And, yes , I am a gambler. I play blackjack. Wont go near a slot machine
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Old 11-10-2015, 07:02 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I Found 2 successful cases right here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4...=RDdQw4w9WgXcQ

It Is Possible to sue a Indian Casino and win. She needs to find a Lawyer that is Recognized By the Indian Tribal Court as,Indian Reservation laws are different.
Question: "Can Tribes Be Sued for Damages or Equitable Relief?"
Information:
Answer: Probably not. Like other sovereign governmental entities, tribes enjoy common law sovereign immunity and cannot be sued:15 An Indian tribe is subject to suit only where Congress has "unequivocally" authorized the suit or the tribe has "clearly" waived its immunity.
Tribal immunity generally extends to agencies of the tribe such as tribal casinos, resorts, and other business enterprises.

Tribal courts generally follow their own precedent and give significant deference to the decisions of other Indian courts. However, because there is no official tribal court reporter and because not all tribal courts keep previous decisions on file, finding such caselaw can be difficult.

Source:A Guide to Indian Law in Washington - Litigation, Mediation & Arbitration - United States
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Old 11-10-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: North Texas
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They really do not to be crooked, they make enough money legitimately.

And, yes , I am a gambler. I play blackjack. Wont go near a slot machine
I won't go anywhere near a casino.
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Old 11-10-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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I do think that the casino should pay her the maximum payout of 6,000. Having said that, I think this lady is downright stupid if she thinks the casino owes her 8.5 million. She can lawyer up all she wants, but all the casino has to do is prove that it was a malfunction which will be extremely easy because there are no odds whatsoever on this machine that would have a payout of 8.5 million. Now the woman will be out lawyers fees as well. She should have taken the free weekend, food, and free play and called it a day.

Another example would be if your bank statement accidently shows 8.5 million in your account. That doesn't mean you get the keep the millions because of a glitch. Even if you do withdraw over what your balance actually is, you will have to repay that money. It is not your money and you are not entitled to it.
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