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Old 02-04-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Even one of my die-hard pothead friends agrees it makes some people lazy. Sorry. We've had discussions about it. It can chill people out too much. Make them not want to do anything.

Regards to "maybe"... "it may not do this, but it does that." I wasn't saying pot maybe makes you violent, I actually said it relaxes you, but look at the context of the sentence.
It affects everyone different' it doesn't make me lazy, it makes me feel energetic..it gets me past the ADD blocks and launches me into action. After I smoke, that's when it's easy for me to start cleaning and getting things done.


I think some people use drugs including pot as escape, people who don't have full lives in the first place...so whether they were lazy and unmotivated first and using pot out of boredom is still a question that we don't know the answer to.
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Old 02-04-2016, 04:36 PM
 
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It affects everyone different' it doesn't make me lazy, it makes me feel energetic..it gets me past the ADD blocks and launches me into action. After I smoke, that's when it's easy for me to start cleaning and getting things done.


I think some people use drugs including pot as escape, people who don't have full lives in the first place...so whether they were lazy and unmotivated first and using pot out of boredom is still a question that we don't know the answer to.
Exactly, it affects everyone differently. This particular friend I'm speaking of is highly functional, if you will, as a regular smoker. She smokes it almost every day.
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:00 PM
 
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Even one of my die-hard pothead friends agrees it makes some people lazy. Sorry. We've had discussions about it. It can chill people out too much. Make them not want to do anything.

Regards to "maybe"... "it may not do this, but it does that." I wasn't saying pot maybe makes you violent, I actually said it relaxes you, but look at the context of the sentence.
Being lazy or too chill is not a reason to make something illegal - lots of legal things do that too!

Die hard potheads are already smoking pot, just like raging alcoholics drink, IMO this is not a relevant reason for it to be illegal since lots of non smokers are lazy as well.
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Old 02-05-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Type 0.73 Kardashev
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I don't know anyone who has ever died of a gunshot wound, but I knew a 16 year old boy who was run over by a stoned driver.
And I don't know of anyone who ever died of a gunshot would, but I do (did) know two people who died in a plane crash.

Thus, if I was prone to be taken in by anecdotal fallacy, I'd think that more people died in plane crashes than from gunshot wounds. Fortunately, I'm not taken in by such simplistic fallacies.

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Oe of my favorite go to "as a result of marijuana" stories: Mother Drives With 5-Week-Old on Top of Car - ABC News
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A Phoenix, Ariz., woman put her 5-week-old baby on top of her car in his car seat and drove away, apparently forgetting he was there, not even noticing when the seat fell off the car and landed in an intersection, police said.
Well, that's what Arizona gets for legalizing pot!

Oh, wait-- Arizona hasn't legalized pot. Looks like prohibition of pot is just about as effective as the prohibition of booze was.
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Old 02-05-2016, 02:24 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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I've researched marijuana extensively, and I've never ever heard of anyone becoming violent as the result of using marijuana in any quantity, so I think you might re-consider your use of the word "maybe" when referring to marijuana use and violence in the same sentence. I think it's pretty clear that the body of evidence supports the conclusion that it does not make one violent.
Alcohol+marijuana seems to make some people more violent than they are with alcohol alone. Any idea if anyone has researched this to see if that is a real thing, or just something that pops up in anecdotes?
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:17 PM
 
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Alcohol+marijuana seems to make some people more violent than they are with alcohol alone. Any idea if anyone has researched this to see if that is a real thing, or just something that pops up in anecdotes?
In my research I've come across studies that say that combining marijuana and alcohol makes you a worse driver than either alone. I haven't seen anything that suggests that marijuana adds to the violent tendencies of drunks, but that would be an interesting one to read about, should some group decide to fund such a study.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:29 PM
 
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Default So ONE of your friends agrees with you...

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Even one of my die-hard pothead friends agrees it makes some people lazy. Sorry. We've had discussions about it. It can chill people out too much. Make them not want to do anything.

Regards to "maybe"... "it may not do this, but it does that." I wasn't saying pot maybe makes you violent, I actually said it relaxes you, but look at the context of the sentence.
Gee whiz, ONE of your FRIENDS agrees with you. And you've had DISCUSSIONS about it! Well that's it then, no need for further studies or talk on our part. Here's a hint: sometimes our friends will agree with us (sometimes that's why we consider them friends).

Some strains of marijuana can give you "couch lock" and others can "make you" want to clean your house or "make you" feel like going for a run. When you're not under the influence you're back to being whomever you are when you are sober, either active or lazy.

Marijuana doesn't affect everyone differently. It affects a lot of us pretty much the same, and a few people differently. For a simple example, if it affected everyone differently no one could really relate to another's marijuana experience, and we all know that is not true. In fact, it's so not true that every experience is different, that we have, and have had for decades, something known as stoner culture. You can't create a culture without a shared experience.
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Old 02-05-2016, 03:35 PM
 
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Gee whiz, ONE of your FRIENDS agrees with you. And you've had DISCUSSIONS about it! Well that's it then, no need for further studies or talk on our part. Here's a hint: sometimes our friends will agree with us (sometimes that's why we consider them friends).

Some strains of marijuana can give you "couch lock" and others can "make you" want to clean your house or "make you" feel like going for a run.

Marijuana doesn't affect everyone differently. It affects a lot of us pretty much the same, and a few people differently. For a simple example, if it affected everyone differently no one could really relate to another's marijuana experience, and we all know that is not true. In fact, it's so not true that every experience is different, that we have, and have had for decades, something known as stoner culture. You can't create a culture without a shared experience.
Congrats on your "research" but I don't need your condescension. Clearly you think you know about me and my relationship with my friend and that my friend would agree with me just because we're friends (what the hell type of logic is that? free thinking? out the window if you're friends!), even my intelligence level (condescension proves that). Not to mention, this friend is a huge pothead and I'm pretty anti-drugs yet we're friends anyway...

Have a good day. I will be the nice, civil one here. I could stoop to your level but I consider myself a nice person.
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Old 02-05-2016, 05:42 PM
 
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Being lazy or too chill is not a reason to make something illegal - lots of legal things do that too!
I have a really comfortable chair that makes me feel lazy and chill. I'm not saying what brand it is in case someone tries to make it illegal.
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Old 02-05-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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Being lazy or too chill is not a reason to make something illegal - lots of legal things do that too!

Die hard potheads are already smoking pot, just like raging alcoholics drink, IMO this is not a relevant reason for it to be illegal since lots of non smokers are lazy as well.
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I have a really comfortable chair that makes me feel lazy and chill. I'm not saying what brand it is in case someone tries to make it illegal.
No one is trying to make anything illegal. Marijuana is already illegal, largely. If anything, people are (successfully) trying to make it LEGAL. There's a much stronger, IMO more popular movement to legalize it than keep it illegal.
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