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Old 02-14-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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And I think your responses here are an excellent example of why America is so damn screwed up - "You stole a thing for me, so you deserve to die." "You stole a thing so you deserve to have your arms and legs cut off."

That's some seriously f-ed up thinking, placing the value of a thing above someone's life, to be willing to commit murder over a thing. Murderous values don't make you smart, tough, cool, patriotic, manly, or any other stupid justification you can come up with.
Totally! People screw up, doesn't mean we should write them off forever. This kid learner that crime doesn't pay. He hopefully has many more years of life to benefit and make different choices.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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But seriously, the seller did not behave smartly. Who dies the exchange / meet in their car. That is not a public place. That is very risky. Why do that this wouldn't have happened if he used internet seller common sense. Meet in a visible public place. And bring a friend.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:18 AM
 
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Air Jordans are ugly shoes.
And so very, very ghetto.

Back from days in the 'hood, we used to call the area "the land of missing body parts." Because it is was so common.

Missing eye, leg(s), arms, fingers . . . this story sort of points to the sometimes why.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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This. Should have just called the police and reported the robbery. Vigilantism has no place here.
Disagree. The current system isn't working, ther scumbag would most likely have just got a little slap on the wrist and been back doing it again in short order.

If I were on the jury, I'd give the robbery victim a 'pass'. Stick a gun in someone's face and rip him off, you deserve whatever you get when your victim doesn't take kindly to it.
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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Arm was reattached but doctors not sure if it was successful. Read down toward end of article.


Brooklyn teen tries to steal Air Jordans, loses arm in Craigslist robbery gone wrong: police | New York's PIX11 / WPIX-TV
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Log "cabin" west of Bangor
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Totally! People screw up, doesn't mean we should write them off forever. This kid learner that crime doesn't pay. He hopefully has many more years of life to benefit and make different choices.
Wrong. If the kid has graduated to sticking people up with a gun, he is already set firmly in his path and his prior experiences victimizing people have done nothing to correct his course. This is undoubtedly not his first criminal act, you don't just suddenly wake up one morning and say "Gee, I think today is a good day to get a gun and steal me some sneakers."
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:54 AM
 
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Driver should have picked up the severed arm and hit him over the head with the wet end.

After all, the kid did say "I'd give my right arm to own a pair of those sneakers".

Sorry, couldn't help myself.
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Macao
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My personal feeling on this story, is the teen really messed with the wrong guy.

I mean, he definitely intentionally ran him over, no doubt about that. He also ran down the street and pulled him off the bus. Which is a bit odd that later the teen walked to his house? How did the car-owner did a 360 from a rage with the car, to a pull off the bus....to a....okay, you walk home....and I'm done with messing with you and will just, what, walk with you along the way? Just go at your pace, wherever you are going, and I'll just chill about it all now?

Also, the driving over the kid with the car was pretty vicious. BUT, the guy was just robbed by GUNPOINT. When 10 seconds ago, you were almost shot and killed, your mind isn't exactly thinking calm rational thoughts on what to do next. Having a retaliation item like a large vehicle, and knowing the kid could shoot at you, as you drive towards him, it's not a huge leap that you'd suddenly irrationally feel threatened again, and gun that accelerator with the thought you are back at a 'do or die' scenario. It's not RIGHT, but my guess is the victim turned his car around, and suddenly realized he'd put himself in harm's way, and had to follow through on something. You can't turn your car around on him, and just look at him, or ask to talk to him about it.

Should he have turned the car around? Rationally, 'no'. But emotionally, maybe he said 'yes', which creates the next scenario, 'okay now what?'

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Old 02-14-2016, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Groveland, FL
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One thing that blows me away is the kid has the presence of mind to run off without an arm and try to board a bus. The article even says he DEMANDED a MetroCard. So even after losing an arm in a robbery, he now thinks of demanding a free ride on a bus. I think if somebody had run me over and torn my arm off, I would have been lying on the ground right where I was hit in a state of shock!
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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It would have been ironic if the teen had lost his foot instead then he couldn't wear the sneakers.


I hope he gets charged to the full extent of the law for (one) armed robbery and possessing an illegal gun.
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