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Old 09-26-2019, 12:15 PM
 
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A child died and you’re gloating. Got it.
Nope. You sure don’t got it. Nice try.
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Old 09-26-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Nope. You sure don’t got it. Nice try.



She usually never does. Mostly negative responses that don't contribute to anything.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:11 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Nope. You sure don’t got it. Nice try.
Too bad our kids aren't cats.

Just look at all the validation based on personal experience we'd have ... If only our kids had fur.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/cats/...cinations.html
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Old 10-02-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Redwood City, CA
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She usually never does. Mostly negative responses that don't contribute to anything.

Hold up a mirror.
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Old 10-02-2019, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Too bad our kids aren't cats.

Just look at all the validation based on personal experience we'd have ... If only our kids had fur.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/cats/...cinations.html
Personal experience is not scientific evidence. There are millions of cat owners whose furkids have had no problems with vaccines.

If you have an indoor cat, at least vaccinate against rabies. It is possible - even though the risk is low - for an indoor cat to come into contact with a rabid bat that gets into the house.
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:00 PM
 
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Too bad our kids aren't cats.

Just look at all the validation based on personal experience we'd have ... If only our kids had fur.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/cats/...cinations.html
I have noticed that vaccine reactions are taken more seriously by pet owners then pretty much anyone else. It’s interesting.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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children under 10 are not routinely vaccined for meningitis. Children under 2, rarer still.
The Hib vaccine, given to infants at 2, 4, and sometimes 6 months (depends on brand), plus again at 1 year protects against Hib meningitis, the most common form of meningitis in infants.
https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/hib-vaccine.html

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It’s always tragic when a child dies. His parents did what a lot of parents do when their kids are sick. They care for them at home. He didn’t even have a fever and he had days where he seemed fine followed by days of being sick in bed. They couldn’t have known that he would stop breathing.

The judge stated the following:

https://globalnews.ca/news/5922905/d...decision-2019/

There’s also no vaccine or treatment for viral meningitis.

The ambulance knew that they were not equipped with the proper equipment. This boy could have been saved if they were. Why does nobody seem to care about that? Because it’s more fun to demonize parents who don’t vaccinate or who use alternative medicine, in this case, nutrition and herbal remedies.
The child was sick for two weeks. He did have fever, at least at the beginning. He was only better for one day. He was so stiff right before his parents finally took him in that he couldn't be placed in his carseat. He had to be fed with an eyedropper.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...port-1.3533174
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...zekiel-stephan

You do not know if Ezekiel could have been saved if the ambulance had a child oxygen mask. Last time around, I read that they did retrofit an adult mask for him.


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Mark, as a parent have you ever waited out an illness that seemed like a mild case of flu or a case of croup? The family has consistently stated that the boy did not have a fever during this illness at any point in time even though this has been falsely repeated in the media. Did you know that they’ve also consistently denied the repeated assertion by the media that they fed him garlic, horseradish, onion smoothies? Do you always head straight to the doctor when your kid is sick? Even after he seems to be getting better? Not everyone does. In fact, a lot of people don’t.

It’s tragic that the child lost his life and I’d imagine that no one is more upset then his parents who lost him. Yet they went through a trial, an appeal, and another trial only to be found, “not guilty”. They also have and continue to go through a trial by media and are demonized by people. All because they couldn’t predict that his health was going to take a turn for the worst and that he would stop breathing.
Two weeks illness where the child is so stiff he can't be folded into a car seat, needing to be fed with an eyedropper is not a "wait it out" situation. Also, he did have a fever, at least at first. And absence of fever does not mean absence of illness. See previous links.

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Old 10-03-2019, 05:25 AM
 
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Verdict was, “not guilty”. Judge ruled that the boy had viral meningitis and died from lack of oxygen. The hib vaccine would not have prevented this. If the ambulance would have had the proper equipment, perhaps he would still be alive. They could not retrofit the mask, if they tried it did not work. This was the Judge’s ruling.
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Old 10-03-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^Yes, and the judge's decision is being called into question. Just ONE of many: https://www-cbc-ca.cdn.ampproject.or...dict-1.5305096
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Old 10-03-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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^^Yes, and the judge's decision is being called into question. Just ONE of many: https://www-cbc-ca.cdn.ampproject.or...dict-1.5305096
The judge is being accused of racism. It seems like a pretty desperate move.
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