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Don't you find it interesting that teachers, the professionals, for the most part do not home school their own children? What would these professionals know that the everyday severely normal mother doesn't?
The US military was concerned that home-schooled recruits were not equal to normal highschool graduates.
homeschooled and ChalleNGe GED recruits are not strong recruits by these measures either
A somewhat different study broke down those that followed a structured curricla did well, but those that did what many home schoolers push, an unstructured one did horrible.
Teaching is one of the biggest rackets out there. From day one in pre school teachers are always selling students on preparing for the next grade. Then it is elementary to middle and middle to high school. Then high school to college and college to undergrad and then to PhDs and then to making donations to the school and sending your kids to the school.
Education is not only a way to control the minds of students but it is a business, a huge business, a mega business. Of course teachers are going to sell education as helpful and necessary and that minds have to be programmed by teachers because it is money to them. Look at most teachers: they could not succeed in the real world. Literature class only exists to provide jobs to people who can do nothing else. Look at most math teachers, what would they do without schools. What about all those who teach gender studies or get fellowships to do studies and write scholarly nonsense. It has no practical application. It is just a way to get funding from alumni who are programmed from pre school to worship educational industrial complex and from government.
Of course it's the same thing with the military industrial complex, police industrial complex, prison industrial, medical industrial complex and etc.
"Take them out of the public schools." Parents pay taxes. Parents bare children...parents should have some say in what it taught to their children. It is not really about the Yoga issue...but in the idea that the state has more authority over products of your body- which is offspring...than parents. The question is - Who has more authorship (authority) over the young lives of children....the community (state) or the persons that bore the child?
If woman for instance say their bodies are their bodies and they have the right to abort their child...then surely those woman who choose to keep and give birth to the child should have authority over the product of their body.
Yoga and meditation are part so of Hindu and Buddhist religious traditions. Regardless of how hippy-dippy they've become in the US under leftist hipsters and new agers.
I'm a leftist and an agnostic...to me it is not any different than prayer in schools. Praying is a religious practice that comes from middle eastern religions. It's funny how my fellow liberals don't see the hypocrisy here. Religion is religion, regardless of whether one religion is "cool" to young hipsters (Hinduism) while Christianity is not.
If you don't want Christians selling their brand of spirituality if schools, there shouldn't be any spirituality sold, period.
Yoga and meditation are part so of Hindu and Buddhist religious traditions. Regardless of how hippy-dippy they've become in the US under leftist hipsters and new agers.
Ludicrous analogy.
Song is part of most religious traditions - but that doesn't mean that the songs to which children are routinely exposed in school are necessarily 'practicing religion'.
I'm a liberal and an atheist, and so is my wife - and as I indicated before, when it's raining and there's indoor recess at the public elementary school where she teachers kindergarten, to burn off some physical energy the children go through a series of yoga exercises led by a video of a penguin. And to suggest that there's anything religious about that is inane.
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If you don't want Christians selling their brand of spirituality if schools, there shouldn't be any spirituality sold, period.
it's no one's problem but yours that you can't differentiate spirituality from things that are no more spiritual than calling today 'Thursday' (Thor's Day).
"Take them out of the public schools." Parents pay taxes. Parents bare children...parents should have some say in what it taught to their children. It is not really about the Yoga issue...but in the idea that the state has more authority over products of your body- which is offspring...than parents. The question is - Who has more authorship (authority) over the young lives of children....the community (state) or the persons that bore the child?
If woman for instance say their bodies are their bodies and they have the right to abort their child...then surely those woman who choose to keep and give birth to the child should have authority over the product of their body.
My wife worked as a school nurse for many years. She learned that a few parents are constantly fussing about what is taught in school and often its over the silliest things. In my state, a program is offered fifth and sixth graders that is called "maturation". Girls and boys learn about the changes in their bodies that take place during adolescence. Nothing about sex or sexual activity is taught at all. Girls are taught about menstruation. Boys are taught about hair growing on parts of their bodies and their voice deepening. She was required to get permission slips signed by every parent or their child could not attend this program. One woman looked at an anatomical diagram of a cervix and uterus and proclaimed it "the worst pornography she had ever seen". That's about the mentality you have to deal with.
That's just the beginning. There have been objections to coed physical education classes, receiving immunizations, teaching evolution, and all kinds of extra-curricular activities designed to enhance the overall learning experience of children. Some parents are currently now objecting to their children going to an assembly to listen to a speech by a woman who was one of the original "Little Rock 9" who helped integrate Central High School in Little Rock, Arkansas in 1957.
Accommodating all the requests of all these parents is extraordinarily difficult. I find myself wishing, the 5% of problem parents would just take their snowflake out of school and leave the rest of us alone.
Teaching Yoga is not teaching religion. Nor, is it Big Brother taking away all your freedom. Its an intelligent response to the fact that children experience much stress growing up and could use a means to alleviate some of it. That's all it is.
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Song is part of most religious traditions - but that doesn't mean that the songs to which children are routinely exposed in school are necessarily 'practicing religion'.
I'm a liberal and an atheist, and so is my wife - and as I indicated before, when it's raining and there's indoor recess at the public elementary school where she teachers kindergarten, to burn off some physical energy the children go through a series of yoga exercises led by a video of a penguin. And to suggest that there's anything religious about that is inane.
it's no one's problem but yours that you can't differentiate spirituality from things that are no more spiritual than calling today 'Thursday' (Thor's Day).
"Exercises" are different than chanting mantras. There is definitely a fine line, but I've been in a corporate setting where something that was sold as "mindfulness" was really transcendental meditation where in the third day we were chanting along with Sri Sri Shankar the giggling guru. At the basis of these things is religion. I thought it was inappropriate and mentioned to HR.
So, if the kids are just stretching...that's one thing...it all depends. It's like the difference between a moment of silence and praying.
I don't see how studying math for years and years is helpful to most people who will not remember even 10 percent of it 5 years later. A better system would be for people who want to be engineers to study the math that is pertainant to the that field. If you want to be a doctor study the math pertainant to medicine. I rather kids study the more practical things that actually will have an impact on their lives. If you are not an engineer or scientist how much math do you use beyond adding and subtracting and calculating percentages; probably not much.
Studying science which I personally like is going to be wasted if kids aren't interested. The only things these kids learn is how to memorize useless information to them and dump it from the mind a week after the test.
This is a sad approach to education.
Everyone should learn math because it teaches how to think logically. There is no way to study the math pertinent to a particular field without mastering the fundamentals first.
Math is probably used more than you might realize. Consider auto mechanics and HVAC for example. Any business involves accounting. Construction requires a knowledge of geometry and trigonometry. Order carpet and these days there are computer programs to calculate how much material to order and how to make cuts to minimize waste.
Give me any job that requires more than strict physical labor and I can probably come up with some ways that math is used.
Everyone should learn math because it teaches how to think logically. There is no way to study the math pertinent to a particular field without mastering the fundamentals first.
Math is probably used more than you might realize. Consider auto mechanics and HVAC for example. Any business involves accounting. Construction requires a knowledge of geometry and trigonometry. Order carpet and these days there are computer programs to calculate how much material to order and how to make cuts to minimize waste.
Give me any job that requires more than strict physical labor and I can probably come up with some ways that math is used.
Learning math as a way to also learn logic is fine, though logic could be taught on its own.
It's the rare job where algebra is used, let alone geometry or trigonometry.
I can kind of understand the perspective. Yoga is awesome, but all those hormones and that bending ...
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