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It charged from 80 yards away. At about 25 feet he used Bear Spray with no success. The Bear kept charging. He had a holstered pistol, but it was torn from him in the attack.
After the first attack, about 10 minutes later the same bear was heard coming through the brush again and attacked him once more.
He was very fortunate this thing didn't catch an artery with it's teeth. He managed to hike 3 miles to his truck to drive himself to the hospital. How Ambulance crews were not enroute to meet him is beyond me as he called the hospital to tell him he was coming.
As an avid outdoorsy type of guy, I've been researching bears quite a lot. There is a very real danger when in Grizzly territory. I don't think bear spray is enough protection honestly. He probably should have just used the gun if the bear was in an all out charge. (sorry if this offends the gallery). Bear spray works as a deterrent if they are not in charge mode. Many examples of this.
People need to respect that these animals can do some serious harm to them, and for Grizzley's it's almost always due to protection of cubs or to protect their territory. If they're out of hibernation early, there is a very real threat for them attacking for the sake of food, which is what happened to Tim Treadwell and his wife.
This attack was for the protection of the cubs, so when the threat was neutralized (he played dead), the mother bear moved on. If it had been for food, he would have not been so lucky.
SN.. for Black bear attacks, do not play dead as they are scavengers and could see it as an easy meal. They have different defense/attack instincts than Grizzly's. There are more situations of them bitin people as they are asleep in tents, hammocks, etc. They are more likely to be scared off by making yourself "big" yelling at it. They are more likely to "bluff" charge". Usually if a Grizzly is coming it is the real thing. They can climb a tree in one or two seconds, so DO NOT climb a tree. They are much better. Always face the black bear without looking directly into its eyes as they attack from behind generally (as most animals do). Obviously with either (or any animal for that fact), no not run as this is viewed from their perspective as you are the prey to be chased.
Both will attack to protect the cubs though. Both are less likely to attack if you are in large groups, but no guarantee.
There is a joke that goes something like this.
When in bear country wear bells and have bear spray canister on hand. This will warn off the bear. The way you know if you're in bear country is you look for bear poop. You'll know it because it will contain bells and empty bear spray canister.
There is a joke that goes something like this.
When in bear country wear bells and have bear spray canister on hand. This will warn off the bear. The way you know if you're in bear country is you look for bear poop. You'll know it because it will contain bells and empty bear spray canister.
This is true, unfortunately it pretty much sucks as those bells are notoriously hard to pass...
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There is a joke that goes something like this.
When in bear country wear bells and have bear spray canister on hand. This will warn off the bear. The way you know if you're in bear country is you look for bear poop. You'll know it because it will contain bells and empty bear spray canister.
Welcome to the party. Clear case of not reading the thread. I made this joke already two weeks ago on page one or two. And if I do say so myself I did a better job. So
There is a joke that goes something like this.
When in bear country wear bells and have bear spray canister on hand. This will warn off the bear. The way you know if you're in bear country is you look for bear poop. You'll know it because it will contain bells and empty bear spray canister.
Welcome to the party. Clear case of not reading the thread. I made this joke already two weeks ago on page one or two. And if I do say so myself I did a better job. So
Yeah well I don't read EVERY post in a thread.
You heard this one
Guy goes out hunting bears. Finds a bear and shoots it. Bear rears up and looks around runs up and grabs the dude by the neck
"WTH ARE YOU DOING MAN? I'm gonna give you two choices. Im gonna kill you or you're give up the nookie"
Guy freaks out but doesn't want to die so he drops trou and the bear goes caveman on his azz. Literally
Guy runs back to town stops at the first in store and says I need the biggest gun that will kill a bear. The guy hands him a .50 cal rifle.
The hunter runs back searches for the bear and finds it. Takes aim and lets it rip. Hits the bear dead square. Bear screams and runs at the hunter
WTH ARE YOU DOING MAN? WTH you're the same guy. Are you crazy! I'm gonna give you two choices. Im gonna kill you or you're give up the nookie" Guy freaks out crying remembering the first time but doesn't want to die so he drops trou again and the bear goes caveman on his azz. Literally. For the second time
Guy crawls back to his truck mad as hell goes back in the store screaming about needing something that flat out will destroy a bear so the guy sells him a elephant gun.
Guy drives like a bat out of hell to get the bear. After a few hours he sees the bear eating a beehive for the honey. Runs out takes aim and hits the bear.
Bear lets out a roar that shakes the forest. Runs up to the guy madder than hell "WTF ARE YOU DOING MAN? Wait a minute. Can't be. You're the SAME damn guy. You aren't out here to hunt are you?"
That's one of the sillier comments in this thread.
Have you ever actually used it?
Sure, if a person has time and the steady nerve it takes to aim the spray at a bear's eyes or nose, that's great. But the spray also works when the can is waved around in the bear's direction at close range, and it's pepper spay; drop a little jalapeno sauce in your ear and see how it feels. Or on your crotch, belly, or anywhere your skin is a little tender.
Every millisecond once a bear commits is full of quick decisions, reflex actions, panic, and fear for your life.
In that second, the object of everything is to survive, and secondly, to survive with most of your major pieces still attached to your body.
It's not killing the bear. That decision has to come long before the bear decides things for herself. And it is a decision that can't always be made either. Almost all bear encounters are a mutual surprise.
Anything that gives you any advantage that discourages the bear at all is huge and the best bear spray works just as well as any gun or anything else, and much better than most others.
I have had only one encounter at close range with a Grizzly, but I've seen them several times from afar. It was right at one of the entrances to Yellowstone Park in the early spring. I was waiting in a short line inside my pickup at the entry station when I noticed something in one rear view mirror.
It was a big bull Grizzly, out of hibernation early, and in a very grump mood. He was walking straight toward the entry, drooling and swinging his head. He was about 20 yards away, and his intentions were very clear. He wanted food or somebody to pick on.
I spotted him a split-second before the Rangers, and the sight paralyzed me for a few seconds. 20 yards is about 2 seconds or less in a bear charge, with only a piece of glass between me and the Big Boss o' the woods.
The rangers hustled everyone in line through the gate, as fast as the cars could go, so I got a free pass into the park, but that didn't even occur to me until I was a safe distance away. All I wanted to do was to get the hell away from that bear as fast as I could, any way I could.
I'm sure the terror I felt is just the same as when a swimmer sees a great white shark closing in.
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So the guy who was manhandled by the bear decides on a career change. So he goes and becomes a fish and game warden. He's actually pretty good studies hard and becomes a expert. While out on his boat searching for poachers during duck and goose hunting season he runs up on a guy hunting in a John boat. Pulls up as to not disturb the peaceful morning and sides up to the hunters boat.
"Good morning sir you having any luck? "
The hunter proudly pulls out a string of ducks "Heck yeah"
Warden "Wow that's nice, hey let me see that duck there"
Guy hands over the duck and the warden wets his finger sticks it up the ducks butt and pulls it out and licks it
"This here is a Wisconsin duck. You got a Wisconsin hunting license?"
Hunter grumbles but finds his Wisconsin license
Warden asks to see another duck, sticks his finger up its butt licks it and says " Well this here is a Idaho duck. You got a Idaho hunting license? "
The hunter is pretty miffed by now because he wants to hunt and missed two flights already, but pulls out a Idaho license.
The warden is getting a bit upset now (still mad about the bear episode a few years back) and since it was coming up on third year anniversary of the incident he really wanted to give this guy a ticket
"Ok let me see that mallard there. Man that's a nice one. Sticks his finger up it's butt and licks it. Sticks it in again licks it holds it in his mouth and mulls it over.
"Ok pal this here is a Alaska duck. Got a Alaska license? "
Guy gets mad, looks in his wallet, coat but finally finds it in his knapsack. "Here you go sir"
Warden looks and says "Now hold on pal. You got a Wisconsin hunting license, a Idaho hunting license AND Alaska hunting license. Just WHO the hell are you pal? "
Hunter looks at the warden, unclasps his belt pulls down his pants and bends over. "Hell you tell me. You seem to be the expert."
I hike, camp and hunt here, and like Orr I carry both spray and a side arm (.44 Mag). My mind is already made up- surprise charge is bear spray. I'm a good shot with my .44, but a CNS hit on a charging, pi$$ed off mammal at full speed requires luck in addition to skill. I'd have to defer to the fog first..
We rotate our spray cans, so each year we discharge the old ones in practice sweeps in the yard. Pretty impressive coverage.
It's totally up to the individual, I offer no argument to make. Use your own judgement and be prepared.
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