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Old 07-02-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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Can you prove this? The thief now has her personal information, ID cards, etc. He has her address. There might be a spare key to her residence in the purse. What's to stop him or some other criminals from doing a little home invasion later?



Who cares? I'm pretty sure the victim cared. This notion that innocent citizens would just allow criminals to get away with their crimes for fear of hurting the criminals is wrong. Why should a victim put themselves through the trials of identity theft, potential home break-in, loss of cash, loss of sense of security, etc. just so the poor little criminal faces no consequences for their actions?

There are real people to feel sorry for in our society and they're NOT criminals. The way some of you people kvetch you'd defend a child rapist if their victim shot them with their dad's shotgun.

IT'S NOT WORTH PUTTING YOUR UNBORN CHILD OR YOURSLF IN DANGER, that was my point! And it definitely is not wise to try to run the criminal over with your vehicle which is obviously breaking the law as well
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Can you prove this? The thief now has her personal information, ID cards, etc. He has her address. There might be a spare key to her residence in the purse. What's to stop him or some other criminals from doing a little home invasion later?



Who cares? I'm pretty sure the victim cared. This notion that innocent citizens would just allow criminals to get away with their crimes for fear of hurting the criminals is wrong. Why should a victim put themselves through the trials of identity theft, potential home break-in, loss of cash, loss of sense of security, etc. just so the poor little criminal faces no consequences for their actions?

There are real people to feel sorry for in our society and they're NOT criminals. The way some of you people kvetch you'd defend a child rapist if their victim shot them with their dad's shotgun.
People are never in physical danger from identity theft and typically smash and grabbers are more interested in cash and maxing out credit cards as soon as they have them rather than go through weeks of creating fake account information. I lived in a DC suburb where smash and grab was common and typically it ended at some non-legit purchases made on credit cards and nothing more.

Still, identity theft is not a death penalty crime and this woman was just plain wrong for trying to kill a petty thief and should receive a severe punishment for reckless endangerment and attempted murder.
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Old 07-02-2017, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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BUT, she didn't hit anybody else.
That is why reckless endangerment should be ONE of the crimes she is charged with. Other people could definitely had gotten hurt or killed
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Central IL
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How or why does it matter that she's pregnant? Maternal instinct should make her more docile? Hormones explain her crazy behavior or "overprotectedness" Totally irrelevant. BTW, people get off with killing people they THINK are trying to break into their homes...
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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In her Defense you could put it all down to Hormones. Being pregnant does things to a person.
That, and the guy she ran over was a #%%@!
A man that steals purses from women is pretty much pond scum in my book.

Yes, she overreacted. But, I would never, ever elect to convict her though, if I were on the Jury.
(It should be noted that in the earlier days in America, they might have given her a medal for doing this. But
then he might have been hung for his theft.)
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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And we must ask ourselves why every time we hear of an unusual crime any more...it takes place at a Wal-mart!!!
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:22 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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She wasn't trying to retrieve property, she was seeking revenge (I guess including death if it came to that) so he "wouldn't be able to get away with it".
If the law won't vindicate her rights because of political correctness or judicial laziness why not?
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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We need more laws that prevent vehicular vengeance on our poor, thieving citizens and non-citizens. They have become much too abused and attacked!!

Shame, shame on hardworking people who lose their heads during a crime being committed against them and their families. They are the scourge on society, not the criminal. They belong in jail, not loose on our streets where they will gleefully pursue and injure a poor thief who's stolen something. Let the thief have your car, wallet or purse. You've probably got two anyway. Just hand it over and let him escape unmolested.

Your only duty is to stand idly by and get a physical description to the police. But don't mention race. That's profiling and it's a bad, bad thing, boys and girls. Only a racist notices and comments on skin color. If the thief appears to be black or from the middle east, just say he appeared to have dark eyes and a heavy tan. If you notice a turban, forget about it!

In fact, don't mention gender at all. You'll greatly insult a "he" if you state confuse him with a "she". Simply report, "It wore a low-cut dress and pink high heels. I saw black hairs on its chest, five-o'clock shadow on its face and a crooked wig on its head."

Be a good citizen.
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We're SUPPOSED to not want criminals to get away with it!

Enough with the drama and pearl clutching over how dangerous she is. He was barely injured and will live to make choices about right and wrong another day. She got him... he was a threat to all of us, walking our towns choosing which of us he'll steal from. But maybe he wasn't out there today.... yet. There should be cheers.
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Can you prove this? The thief now has her personal information, ID cards, etc. He has her address. There might be a spare key to her residence in the purse. What's to stop him or some other criminals from doing a little home invasion later?



Who cares? I'm pretty sure the victim cared. This notion that innocent citizens would just allow criminals to get away with their crimes for fear of hurting the criminals is wrong. Why should a victim put themselves through the trials of identity theft, potential home break-in, loss of cash, loss of sense of security, etc. just so the poor little criminal faces no consequences for their actions?

There are real people to feel sorry for in our society and they're NOT criminals. The way some of you people kvetch you'd defend a child rapist if their victim shot them with their dad's shotgun.
I think we should all have more sympathy for the criminal purse-snatcher here. As the thugs said in West Side Story to the policemen 'we're depraved on account we're deprived." Life on the streets should be a game of redistribution of wealth from those who work for it to those who are able to obtain it, by force, deviousness or otherwise. </sarcasm>

Frankly we need a return in society to the idea of right and wrong. The liberals whine about Trump, and then sympathize with thugs. I wonder how we got Trump.
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Old 07-02-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Still, identity theft is not a death penalty crime and this woman was just plain wrong for trying to kill a petty thief and should receive a severe punishment for reckless endangerment and attempted murder.
If you make a decision to commit a crime you face risks. You may think, going into it that the worst that will happen is a finger-wag from an indifferent, jaded judge. Sometimes a gamble doesn't work out too well. If the thief had died he would have been in line for a Darwin Award.
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:22 PM
 
Location: U.S.A., Earth
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Not this time But, you know, screw the next person he'd have stolen from, right?
[shrug] The next person she tries to run down or shoot, she may hit a bystander instead. So she's fine so long as nobody innocent gets hurt right?
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