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It's a mixed thing. I don't want to see society rewarding bad behavior as we so often do, but I don't want to see felons released with no hope of ever having a decent future after serving their sentence, and in cases like this, rehabilitating. That's not good for society. Leads to recidivism and worse.
They are interested in her for several reasons, one of which is as a case study of sorts. I think ultimately it's up to the schools in question to make this decision based on their own goals and ideals. I can say that I'd be pissed if I personally was passed over for a slot in favor of a former child killer. But as a society, maybe we can learn something about rehabilitation, the roots of generational child abuse, etc.
I'm glad it's not my call because I think I'd feel bad about it either way. Only time will tell.
I wish she'd gotten the same prison justice that a male child killer would have gotten, but sadly, she did not. Hopefully she can take that doctorate straight to hell with her when she goes...
Just to be clear, you wish a woman an eternity in hell because she was raped as a child, then brutally beaten by her mother in an attempt to abort the baby, and abandoned to the foster care system.....and then had a mental break because of all that and confessed to a crime that the police had never even attributed to her?
Wow, I would love to know what made you so perfect. People in glass houses and all that.
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I wish she'd gotten the same prison justice that a male child killer would have gotten, but sadly, she did not. Hopefully she can take that doctorate straight to hell with her when she goes...
I disagree that male killers of children get harsher sentences, when the child is someone they know. If a man grabs a strange child off the streets, sexually assaults them and murders them, they do get harsh sentences.
When boyfriends of a mother beat a small child to death, honestly, I'm heartbroken at the short sentences they typically receive.
People who sell prescription medications to people without an Rx get harsher sentences. God help you if you sell painkillers in the state of Florida. You won't be seeing the light of day anytime soon.
She beat her 4 year old child and left him to die alone, terrified, and in pain for days and only served 20 of her 50 year sentence. Sounds like a swell gal.
Quoted from NYTimes article in OP:
Two years later, during a stay at a mental-health crisis center, Ms. Jones admitted that she had buried [her son] without notifying the police or Brandon’s father and his family.
At her trial, a former friend testified that Ms. Jones confessed to having beaten the boy and then leaving him alone for days in their apartment, eventually returning to find him dead in his bedroom.
Ms. Jones was sentenced to 50 years in prison, but was released after 20 based on her good behavior and educational attainment.
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She beat her 4 year old child and left him to die alone, terrified, and in pain for days and only served 20 of her 50 year sentence. Sounds like a swell gal.
Quoted from NYTimes article in OP:
Two years later, during a stay at a mental-health crisis center, Ms. Jones admitted that she had buried [her son] without notifying the police or Brandon’s father and his family.
At her trial, a former friend testified that Ms. Jones confessed to having beaten the boy and then leaving him alone for days in their apartment, eventually returning to find him dead in his bedroom.
Ms. Jones was sentenced to 50 years in prison, but was released after 20 based on her good behavior and educational attainment.
Oh well, she brought the child into the world, I guess she thought it was her right to take him out of it too!
She beat her 4 year old child and left him to die alone, terrified, and in pain for days and only served 20 of her 50 year sentence. Sounds like a swell gal.
Quoted from NYTimes article in OP:
Two years later, during a stay at a mental-health crisis center, Ms. Jones admitted that she had buried [her son] without notifying the police or Brandon’s father and his family.
At her trial, a former friend testified that Ms. Jones confessed to having beaten the boy and then leaving him alone for days in their apartment, eventually returning to find him dead in his bedroom.
Ms. Jones was sentenced to 50 years in prison, but was released after 20 based on her good behavior and educational attainment.
Interesting that you chose to omit the part about her being raped at the age of 14, beaten by her mother, etc. There are plenty of people who do truly awful things that haven't gone through any of this. This woman is not one of them.
And keep in mind...it was the judicial system that let her out after 20 years. It's not like she broke out of prison. It's not like she could choose to stay. The prisons are overcrowded so nearly all prisoners are released early.
It's a mixed thing. I don't want to see society rewarding bad behavior as we so often do, but I don't want to see felons released with no hope of ever having a decent future after serving their sentence, and in cases like this, rehabilitating. That's not good for society. Leads to recidivism and worse.
They are interested in her for several reasons, one of which is as a case study of sorts. I think ultimately it's up to the schools in question to make this decision based on their own goals and ideals. I can say that I'd be pissed if I personally was passed over for a slot in favor of a former child killer. But as a society, maybe we can learn something about rehabilitation, the roots of generational child abuse, etc.
I'm glad it's not my call because I think I'd feel bad about it either way. Only time will tell.
I agree. When a person has paid their debt to society, they should be given a reasonable chance to reintegrate into society in terms of work, residence, and education. If they aren't what is the alternative? That they become outcasts existing on the margins of society?
Yet, I do have to agree with NLVgal that I would not be happy, if I were not accepted and the slot was given to someone who was a child murderer.
PhD programs are generally funded, meaning they students are given a stipend to cover living expenses and their education is free of charge. They are also highly competitive.
What I am wondering is why this particular woman was sought out by so many well regarded schools? Were her GREs very high? What special abilities does she have that other applicants lack?
It seems that certain (but not all) high profile universities accept two kinds of people -legacies and people who have lived in extreme circumstances - were homeless, refugees, brought up in abject poverty etc.
But this is the first time I have hard of a child murderer being accepted to a PhD program.
Oh well, she brought the child into the world, I guess she thought it was her right to take him out of it too!
My mother used to remind me of that. Often.
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