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Old 05-03-2018, 10:53 PM
 
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My co-worker is 27 years old and didn’t know how to address an envelope or write a check when he started. I was appalled. He has bills but pays them all online. Soon, the generation after him won’t know either since everything is done online. I am paying most of my bills online too and hardly write checks anymore.

Society is always going to change. The generation before me used an abacus and I’m sure they’re appalled because I don’t know how since I used a calculator. As times change, some things disappear.
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Old 05-04-2018, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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My co-worker is 27 years old and didn’t know how to address an envelope or write a check when he started. I was appalled. He has bills but pays them all online. Soon, the generation after him won’t know either since everything is done online. I am paying most of my bills online too and hardly write checks anymore.

Society is always going to change. The generation before me used an abacus and I’m sure they’re appalled because I don’t know how since I used a calculator. As times change, some things disappear.
I suppose it depends on how much it costs you and how much you are willing to pay.

I paid my tax estimation this year with a check because last year, that #% of the amount for the service on line was just ungodly! At least with the check, it was the amount, the whole amount, and only but the amount.

Plus, there are other things as well. If someone calls me up and offers me a great deal, telling them to send it to me in writing usually ends the conversation real quick. Why? Well, if the person is honest, then it is probably because they are lazy and there are other fish to fry.

But if they are dishonest and smart, they know that by sending it to me in writing is mail fraud and that invokes heavy guns of federal law enforcement.

Long story short, there are certain benefits to doing things the old fashion way in that they may involve protections that the newer systems don't have.

Then, there is another standpoint about things like the mail. It is a way to stay involved, to be recognized as part of the community. It is like the other day at the bank where the teller said, "Oh, I don't need to see your ID, Ms. Ounce; I know who you are!".

That may not be important for the young; I know in my 20s, I was less caring of what I did for who would know? Then again, I was in my 20s before the Internet and you know what they say about that...."What crazy things we did and there is no record!".

So the question is, how much is it worth to someone to be essentially unknown?
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Old 05-04-2018, 03:46 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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I suppose it depends on how much it costs you and how much you are willing to pay.

I paid my tax estimation this year with a check because last year, that #% of the amount for the service on line was just ungodly! At least with the check, it was the amount, the whole amount, and only but the amount.

Plus, there are other things as well. If someone calls me up and offers me a great deal, telling them to send it to me in writing usually ends the conversation real quick. Why? Well, if the person is honest, then it is probably because they are lazy and there are other fish to fry.

But if they are dishonest and smart, they know that by sending it to me in writing is mail fraud and that invokes heavy guns of federal law enforcement.

Long story short, there are certain benefits to doing things the old fashion way in that they may involve protections that the newer systems don't have.

Then, there is another standpoint about things like the mail. It is a way to stay involved, to be recognized as part of the community. It is like the other day at the bank where the teller said, "Oh, I don't need to see your ID, Ms. Ounce; I know who you are!".

That may not be important for the young; I know in my 20s, I was less caring of what I did for who would know? Then again, I was in my 20s before the Internet and you know what they say about that...."What crazy things we did and there is no record!".

So the question is, how much is it worth to someone to be essentially unknown?
Yes indeed, convenience has always come at a cost in one way or another. Sometimes it's worth it, and sometimes not, and it really depends on what a person is comfortable doing. Doing business on line is fine, if one is willing to take on a bit of risk. Online banking, bill-pay, shopping, etc., is the popular thing now, and it also created a whole new business... identity theft protection. And it will be interesting to see what happens if/when a large enough solar flare erupts and cooks all the exposed satellites up there. Wireless communications will be hit hard, and won't be back overnight. Those old ways of doing things, and those who know how, may suddenly become quite popular.
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Old 05-04-2018, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Sarasota FL
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Instead of teaching the kids how to read an analog clock, they are removing the clocks. Now that's how to fix a problem.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:34 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Yes indeed, convenience has always come at a cost in one way or another. Sometimes it's worth it, and sometimes not, and it really depends on what a person is comfortable doing. Doing business on line is fine, if one is willing to take on a bit of risk. Online banking, bill-pay, shopping, etc., is the popular thing now, and it also created a whole new business... identity theft protection. And it will be interesting to see what happens if/when a large enough solar flare erupts and cooks all the exposed satellites up there. Wireless communications will be hit hard, and won't be back overnight. Those old ways of doing things, and those who know how, may suddenly become quite popular.
What risk? How about the risk of not doing business online? I have never had an issue with online banking, ever. What can go wrong with online banking? On the other hand, before I started banking online, I had at least a half dozen checks get lost in the mail, and I ended up with penalties for late payments because of it. To say nothing about other times, when I just forgot to send the check, and ended up with late fee. With online banking I don't even have to think about it, other then to check my account a couple of times a month to make sure there is no unusual activity on it.
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Old 05-04-2018, 11:39 PM
 
Location: Oregon Coast
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Instead of teaching the kids how to read an analog clock, they are removing the clocks. Now that's how to fix a problem.
It's a good solution.
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Old 05-05-2018, 01:49 AM
 
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I'm 48 (raised in the midwest and east coast), and other than on old TV shows, I've never once heard anyone in real life actually refer to the half hour as "half past." Contrastingly, I hear (and use) equally: "quarter after seven" and "seven-fifteen", or "quarter-till-nine" and "eight forty-five."


I wonder why the "half past" phrase never caught on with folks in my neck of the woods.
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Old 05-05-2018, 01:56 AM
 
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Society is always going to change. The generation before me used an abacus and I’m sure they’re appalled because I don’t know how since I used a calculator. As times change, some things disappear.
OMG! just how old are you?!?
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Old 05-05-2018, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Mayacama Mtns in CA
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I'm 48 (raised in the midwest and east coast), and other than on old TV shows, I've never once heard anyone in real life actually refer to the half hour as "half past." Contrastingly, I hear (and use) equally: "quarter after seven" and "seven-fifteen", or "quarter-till-nine" and "eight forty-five."


I wonder why the "half past" phrase never caught on with folks in my neck of the woods.
I was raised in the Plains States in the 50's and the use of "half past" was common during that time. I think it comes from the British/Scots usage of "half two", meaning 2:30. As far as I know they do not use "quarter two" for 2:15.

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Old 05-05-2018, 12:20 PM
 
Location: southern kansas
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What risk? How about the risk of not doing business online? I have never had an issue with online banking, ever. What can go wrong with online banking? On the other hand, before I started banking online, I had at least a half dozen checks get lost in the mail, and I ended up with penalties for late payments because of it. To say nothing about other times, when I just forgot to send the check, and ended up with late fee. With online banking I don't even have to think about it, other then to check my account a couple of times a month to make sure there is no unusual activity on it.
Though he risk may be minimal, it is there whether you think so or not..........

* Identity theft.
* Bank account info (routing numbers, etc.) stolen or compromised through hacking, or wireless.
* Account & personal information stolen from retailers by hacking, sold on the dark web.
* Communications failures, electrical power grid blackouts, satellite failure. No way to access your account.
* Mobile device failure, lost, stolen, or destroyed.

Like I said, odds are probably low of any of these things happening to you. But to deny they exist is wishful thinking.
For the record, I do online shopping and some bill pay with a cc. I don't have the need to do online banking, so I don't, but that's fine for those that do.
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