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Old 12-13-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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Is that the right link? I see nothing new there, just the same pictures already presented in this thread.

 
Old 12-13-2019, 07:54 AM
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Is that the right link? I see nothing new there, just the same pictures already presented in this thread.
I had never seen the pic of Chloe from behind, in the kid's splash pad, showing the glass windows that very day she fell out.

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Old 12-13-2019, 08:33 AM
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/11/us/ro...rnd/index.html

Possible the last photo of Chloe before she fell from the window.

Note the color of the windows.

Those don't look so very tinted, to me.
They don't look like clear glass to me, at all. It's hard to tell anything in a photo taken so far from the windows, but at least in that view, you can barely see through them.

Reading that article is sad. The family is grasping at straws. There should have been posted warnings that windows may be open? But he says he wouldn't have seen them even if there had been? Please.

And the statement, which we've heard so many times, that he lifted her up specifically to bang on the window, is directly contradicted by the fact that he held her there about 30 seconds before she fell. Did he not notice for 30 seconds that no banging was happening?

The ship officials said he "sat her in the window and then lost his balance." This must be from eyewitnesses and/or the surveillance video. Funny that he never mentions that part. And of course it is telling that "at first he blamed himself" and now he blames the "boat" and wants them to "fix the boat." Of course he blamed himself, because it was his fault. And then the lawyers got involved and now it's the cruise line's fault.
 
Old 12-13-2019, 09:20 AM
 
Location: At the corner of happy and free
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Unless a cruise ship were completely encapsulated, with nothing open to the outside world at all, it will have places that a person could conceivably climb (or in Chloe's case, be held dangerously) and end up falling overboard. People have to take the largest portion of responsibility for their own safety. The world cannot be dummy-proofed or carelessness-proofed, though reasonable safety features are of course helpful and expected. The railing was a reasonable safety feature that was, unfortunately, misused by the grandfather.
 
Old 12-13-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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I had never seen the pic of Chloe from behind, in the kid's splash pad, showing the glass windows that very day she fell out.
Somehwhere in this very long thread is a video of the area. I don't believe the picture you're seeing is the same set of windows, if they are windows at all.

Here is a picture of the exterior wall that's shows the difference in color a little better
https://cruisepassenger.com.au/wp-co...on-759x500.jpg - cruisepassenger.com.au/

That area seen behind Chloe in the picture you're talking about is some sort of entryway or buliding front with different windows, they don't appear to be windows at the top at all. Note the word 'zone' in this picture and the one of Chloe below the video. https://www.growingyourbaby.com/wp-c...-H20-zone-.jpg

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Old 12-13-2019, 10:50 AM
 
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/11/us/ro...rnd/index.html

Possible the last photo of Chloe before she fell from the window.

Note the color of the windows.

Those don't look so very tinted, to me.
This picture was taken quite distance from the window and of course is focused on Chloe, not the windows a good distance beyond her. We've seen pictures and video much closer to the windows that show the tinting very apparent.
 
Old 12-13-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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The lawyer is distorting the facts because this is a way aways from the kids play area. This is a area where people sit at tables and enjoy the view.
 
Old 12-13-2019, 11:53 AM
 
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I had never seen the pic of Chloe from behind, in the kid's splash pad, showing the glass windows that very day she fell out.
Those do not look like the windows in question at all.
 
Old 12-13-2019, 01:44 PM
 
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Those are not the windows in question
 
Old 12-13-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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OK, so let's say the window was closed as grandpa thought. Then he dropped her and she hit her head and died. Who's responsible?
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