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Old 12-02-2021, 01:16 PM
 
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Profanity is not protected speech, and it’s Federal regulations that prohibit it on public airwaves not the stations.

“Federal law prohibits obscene, indecent and profane content from being broadcast on the radio or TV” The exception is for subscription TV channels such as on paid cable networks.

https://www.fcc.gov/consumers/guides...ane-broadcasts
Its funny how it is protected speech in some venues but not in others. I watched a video yesterday of a kid yelling "f the police" out of his car to a cop giving someone a ticket. In that scenario, it was considered protected speech.

Probably the rules regarding public broadcasts are old and held over from more puritan times. Hopefully they will update it to fit modern notions of the first amendment.
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Old 12-02-2021, 01:19 PM
 
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Apparently, there is some presumption that these flash mobs coordinate their activities on websites or social media groups overtly set up for the purpose of coordinating flash mobs.

I suspect these are coordinated by private messages or texts using vague terms like, "The guys are getting together at 10th and Main at 1:00."

Trying to suppress that kind of speech simply would not work on this side of China.
It seems some people believe that people are going on facebook and making a group called "Everyone meet at Gucci at 7pm and steal everything!" Im sure it isnt that obvious and I agree with you that it would not be so simple to intervene without violating a variety of constitutional amendments.
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Old 12-02-2021, 01:23 PM
 
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Looks like no prosecuting is going to have to change.
It already has. LE nabbed several of the Bay Area perps in the recent incidents, and are investigating surveillance video, etc. to try to get more of them. It's not that CA doesn't prosecute "shoplifting" at all. It's that they don't bother prosecuting the penny-ante incidents. These big heists were written up as felonies, IIRC. Mega-$$$ merch.
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Old 12-02-2021, 03:48 PM
 
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They use social media to sell drugs, to sell stolen goods, to set up meets with prostitutes, etc... Why not use something ubiquitous as social media for things like robbing stores and flash mobs?
Yep they would normally but after January 6th riot I think they are more careful now. Now most social media is monitored when it wasn't at all on the site the Capital idiots went into and openly made their plans.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:08 AM
 
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It already has. LE nabbed several of the Bay Area perps in the recent incidents, and are investigating surveillance video, etc. to try to get more of them. It's not that CA doesn't prosecute "shoplifting" at all. It's that they don't bother prosecuting the penny-ante incidents. These big heists were written up as felonies, IIRC. Mega-$$$ merch.
CA is doing it wrong. They let all 14 arrested out on zero bail. Sure taught them a lesson.
https://www.foxla.com/news/smash-and...-cas-zero-bail
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"All the suspects taken into custody are out of custody, either as a result of one juvenile, or the others as a result of bailing out or zero-bail criteria," Chief Moore stated.
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Old 12-03-2021, 06:52 AM
 
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CA is doing it wrong. They let all 14 arrested out on zero bail. Sure taught them a lesson.
https://www.foxla.com/news/smash-and...-cas-zero-bail
This is maddening.

I'm thankful I'm not a Californian or a big city dweller. Too many of them have lost their moral compass. They don't seem to notice or care.
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Old 12-03-2021, 09:10 AM
 
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Most of these smash & grab groups seem to be mostly consisting of black kids 14-25. I suspect most of them recruit themselves from extended friend groups centered around neighborhoods and schools and many are likely tied into the local gangs. Social media isn't how they meet, it's how they coordinate which places to hit when. That sometimes might be on sites like Facebook but more likely is done via group chats on various services.



If there were 'larger players' involved who centrally task various groups of these kids with these jobs and collect profits from it, you could have grounds for a RICO investigation in which case the FBI would get involved and would use informants and wiretaps to get them. But they won't go to such lengths to go after a bunch of HS kids stealing crap. The only defense against those would be arresting more of them after catching them in the act and putting them behind bars for an extended timeframe. 90% of those kids wouldn't do this stuff if their 'reward' for taking an Apple Watch was a few years in the joint.

It would still continue because these kids have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They come from from the poorest of poor neighborhoods where finding a buck on the ground is like a Godsend to them.
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Old 12-03-2021, 10:08 AM
 
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This is maddening.

I'm thankful I'm not a Californian or a big city dweller. Too many of them have lost their moral compass. They don't seem to notice or care.
A big reason the cost of housing in the Phx. metro has skyrocketed over the past few years is because many who left Cal. moved here. Now, Cal. is still a great place to live if you've got the big bucks or feed off state/local benefits.

However, an increasing number of the middle class have had enough. And the Phx metro is a top destination... which is great for me. (Own seven properties.)

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Old 12-03-2021, 10:24 AM
 
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...The incidents have spooked workers, retailers say, as they can involve dozens of people swarming in with crowbars, guns and other weapons, and breaking glass. Some have resulted in injuries: Two Nordstrom employees were assaulted and one was pepper-sprayed Nov. 20 after an estimated 80 people rushed the Walnut Creek store.

Best Buy chief executive Corie Barry says the high-profile events have made it more difficult to hire staff, particularly in shoplifting hot spots along the West Coast.

...It's likely the crimes were organized via messaging apps or email, but not in an extremely structured way, with plans being passed to different people who may not know each other in the real world.

https://www.sfgate.com/business/arti...s-16671485.php
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Old 12-03-2021, 12:25 PM
 
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It seems likely that they are using social media to coordinate the attacks on stores. How come no one mentions that fact on MSM? Shutting down their means of communication would be an obvious way to help stop these events.
The issue is there are so many outlets to use. Way too many to monitor and they can shut down and open another one in minutes. It’s not like they’re using Facebook and Snapchat or Instagram. That’s way too visible and on the radar. They’re going to fly under the radar as much as possible. It’s impossible to keep up with all the sites being created constantly. It doesn’t have to be pretty it has to be functional.
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