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Old 01-19-2022, 01:34 PM
 
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This also isn't Andrew's first sex scandal, if anyone is old enough to remember the porn star he embarrassed the royal family with, in the 80's. I'm sure it's not just the one incident that prompted this, but his "body of work" as they say.

Don't forget that his father was a playboy and his mother looked the other way


This is big time different today!
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Old 01-19-2022, 01:40 PM
 
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Don't forget that his father was a playboy and his mother looked the other way


This is big time different today!
Yes, there were no multi page People magazine spreads with photos of him with porn star,. I think I recall even a blurry one of them in the shower) as there were with Andrew. I think the general consensus throughout the history of the Royal family has been, men do what they want, but it all costs you must keep it discreet and protect the royal family. Andrew did not do that. If I recall, he was dating her rather publicly until the People magazine spread, when the Queen put a stop to it. I don’t know about his father regarding discretion.
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Old 01-19-2022, 05:41 PM
 
Location: London U.K.
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This also isn't Andrew's first sex scandal, if anyone is old enough to remember the porn star he embarrassed the royal family with, in the 80's. I'm sure it's not just the one incident that prompted this, but his "body of work" as they say.
You’re talking about Koo Stark, the American “soft porn” actress whose worst films would apparently only have attracted a censorship of 18 in the U.S.
She was never an adult industry porn actress.
Allegedly her involvement with Prince Andrew put her on an IRA hit list in the eighties.
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Old 01-19-2022, 07:07 PM
 
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You’re talking about Koo Stark, the American “soft porn” actress whose worst films would apparently only have attracted a censorship of 18 in the U.S.
She was never an adult industry porn actress.
Right...and all he did was date her.

She wasn't deemed suitable material for a royal wedding, but it was nothing more scandalous than that.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:25 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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I wonder how Prince Andrew's behavior would be viewed in a historical perspective? Go back a few centuries and it would probably have been shrugged off.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:34 PM
 
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Prince Andrew must be that creepy uncle no one really likes, who always shows up at family get togethers.
I was watching him on the news the other day and thinking he resembled MY now-deceased creepy uncle.
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Old 01-19-2022, 10:39 PM
 
Location: interior Alaska
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I wonder how Prince Andrew's behavior would be viewed in a historical perspective? Go back a few centuries and it would probably have been shrugged off.
Sure, but so was auctioning off human beings as slaves, so maybe it's not a great metric for calibrating a moral compass.
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Old 01-20-2022, 12:49 AM
 
Location: Glasgow Scotland
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You’re talking about Koo Stark, the American “soft porn” actress whose worst films would apparently only have attracted a censorship of 18 in the U.S.
She was never an adult industry porn actress.
Allegedly her involvement with Prince Andrew put her on an IRA hit list in the eighties.
Pretty girl.. but didnt know much about her.. looked up her bio and found this about her mother . who some might have known from TV...Hosted one of the first television talk shows, "The Kathi Morris Show", in 1948.
Daughter by producer Wilbur Stark is the model and adult movie actress Koo Stark who years ago (early 1980s) earned bad press for her romantic entanglement with Prince Andrew.
After her talk show, she went on to host "True Story," "Modern Romances" and several quiz shows. She also hosted a "woman's view" segment of the news on Dave Garroway's "Today Show."
Had three children: Kathleen (Koo), Pamela and Wilbur, Jr.
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Old 01-20-2022, 01:48 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Yep, let’s judge everyone based on what was okay a few centuries ago. Seriously, I’m not even a liberal whiner “blame the man for everything” but those of you who are claiming the girl “was 17 which is the age of consent in the UK” are exactly why abuse of minors is swept under the rug. As I’ve said before, Epstein was a convicted PEDOPHILE. He groomed these children and his “friends” were fully aware of the circumstances before they “partook” of his wares - this is as far as I’ll go talking about the horrors these girls endured. These children were groomed well before the age of consent except in the most criminal of countries. I don’t care if Prince Andrew was young and unmarried, there is no way he didn’t understand the situation with Epstein’s “girls” unless he is literally the stupidest royal ever
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Old 01-20-2022, 02:41 AM
 
Location: London U.K.
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Yep, let’s judge everyone based on what was okay a few centuries ago. Seriously, I’m not even a liberal whiner “blame the man for everything” but those of you who are claiming the girl “was 17 which is the age of consent in the UK” are exactly why abuse of minors is swept under the rug. As I’ve said before, Epstein was a convicted PEDOPHILE. He groomed these children and his “friends” were fully aware of the circumstances before they “partook” of his wares - this is as far as I’ll go talking about the horrors these girls endured. These children were groomed well before the age of consent except in the most criminal of countries. I don’t care if Prince Andrew was young and unmarried, there is no way he didn’t understand the situation with Epstein’s “girls” unless he is literally the stupidest royal ever
Jeffrey Epstein was a despicable sleazy person who was accused of sex trafficking and conspiracy to engage in sex trafficking, he was never a convicted paedophile, (spell it how you like.)
Paedophile and pedophile are words slung around at the drop of a hat, I repeat, to say that Epstein was not a nice person is the understatement of the year, but to my knowledge he was never accused of paedophilia.
A paedophile is an adult who is attracted to pre-pubescent children, girls up to 9 or 10, boys up to 11 or 12.
A 17 y.o. girl is not pre-pubescent, nor is she a child to most people, yes it’s morally repugnant for 40 plus men to sexually pursue a 17 y.o., but it doesn’t make the men paedophiles.
So put Epstein down as much as you like, but get his crimes right, as for Andrew, his title should have been Court Jester, and not a very amusing one.
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