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Old 05-12-2022, 06:38 PM
 
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I have administered many pension plans and I repeat unless you have read this pension plan, you do not know. Just because someone is terminated does not mean they and/or the beneficiaries are not entitled to a pension. That is called a vested benefit. Many government pension plans are contributory and you are 100% vested in your own contributions. Some plans pay a death benefit. Get back to me after you have read the plan.
yes my roommates dad retired from civil service.

After he passed, the government sent the kids several thousand dollars each. Money that was still in his account.
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Old 05-12-2022, 06:53 PM
 
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No, thank you. I am actually trying to ween myself away from that subforum. Way toxic ver there.
Russ/Uke topics are spread over a remarkable variety of subforms. Lots of choices besides the toxic one (fwiw). "Europe" is safe enough...
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Old 05-12-2022, 07:08 PM
 
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LOL. Well, ya know, "discussion" forums do tend to discuss. And as far as going off on weird tangents, this is nothing!

But if you prefer, we could meet on one (or more) of the Russia/Ukraine threads, and fight about who should join NATO, or whether the US is only making things worse, or any number of related issues...

Good point.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:30 PM
 
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My guess is it would be split between her parents. Since she is dead (not going to serve jail time) I don't see how they could take back any personal contributions before her official fired date. I wonder if they could "bill" her employers previous contributions for the tax payers cost of the manhunt?

I would be very interested if a death benefit was payed out and by who. She could also have others that are not through her employer.
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Yes, I'm aware that it is possible that she may have been entitled to her portion of the pension contribution and/or the whole enchilada if she was vested. Or not. I can only go by what Sheriff Singleton said to the press, which was that she lost her state-funded contributions to her pension. I imagine he knows more about it than you do. However, this is not your debate. Your debate is your completely ridiculous proposition that Casey W was plotting to claim it. It's so preposterous that I will not comment on this anymore, except to say, let's take a bet on it, Maddie. Let's see if he files down the road. Up for it? I'll post back if he does and you can take me to the C-D cleaners.
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All of this because I posted, "Or he may be angling for the pension?" No, I have better things to do.
Why did you quote me here?

ETA: I haven't seen anything about the car wash owner getting the reward yet. I hope they don't try to say he didn't earn it.

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Old 05-12-2022, 11:44 PM
 
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ETA: I haven't seen anything about the car wash owner getting the reward yet. I hope they don't try to say he didn't earn it.
I was thinking the same thing. Apparently, there are several petitions circulating.

https://www.wevv.com/news/petitions-...63292b803.html

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Since the death of Vicky White and the apprehension of Casey White, several petitions have surfaced, vying for ‘Car Wash James’ right to the money.

This includes the petition started by Amber Savallo who has garnered over a thousand signatures.
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Old 05-12-2022, 11:48 PM
 
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As far as her pension, who knows, but here's the Alabama policy on that:

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Act 2012-412 requires members of TRS, ERS and JRF convicted of a felony offense related to their public position to forfeit their right to lifetime retirement benefits. However, the employee would receive a refund of his or her retirement contributions. This legislation is not retroactive and does not affect any member that has already been found guilty of an offense.
https://www.nasra.org/files/Compiled...20statutes.pdf

I'm sure at the time of his statement, Sheriff Singleton was sure she'd be caught and convicted, so yes, she would have forfeited her contributions in that case. But she died without being convicted, and I doubt she'll be tried posthumously.
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Old 05-13-2022, 04:53 AM
 
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Were it not for Car Wash James, that couple might still be on the loose. Why is the reward money in question?
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Old 05-13-2022, 07:54 AM
 
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As far as her pension, who knows, but here's the Alabama policy on that:
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Alabama
Act 2012-412 requires members of TRS, ERS and JRF convicted of a felony offense related to their public position to forfeit their right to lifetime retirement benefits. However, the employee would receive a refund of his or her retirement contributions. This legislation is not retroactive and does not affect any member that has already been found guilty of an offense.
https://www.nasra.org/files/Compiled...20statutes.pdf

I'm sure at the time of his statement, Sheriff Singleton was sure she'd be caught and convicted, so yes, she would have forfeited her contributions in that case. But she died without being convicted, and I doubt she'll be tried posthumously.
From your quote, she would have gotten them back. They can't steal your personal contributions even if you committed a crime.


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Were it not for Car Wash James, that couple might still be on the loose. Why is the reward money in question?
That's what I want to know. Give him the $25k already. He deserves it. My god, even the cops just told him to have it towed away. He could have done just that and been done with it, but, it didn't feel right to him.
ETA: Also the reward money is a combination of 4 reward amounts.
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Old 05-13-2022, 09:26 AM
 
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From your quote, she would have gotten them back. They can't steal your personal contributions even if you committed a crime.



That's what I want to know. Give him the $25k already. He deserves it. My god, even the cops just told him to have it towed away. He could have done just that and been done with it, but, it didn't feel right to him.
ETA: Also the reward money is a combination of 4 reward amounts.
I saw a show on this, it said those rewards are rarely paid out to people.
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Old 05-13-2022, 10:23 AM
 
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I saw a show on this, it said those rewards are rarely paid out to people.
I guess we will see in this case. Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey is going to look pretty bad if it's not paid out. She is the one who increased it to 25k.
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