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This crime doesn't follow a clear pattern, so all bets are off, IMHO. The reason the FBI has good profiling is because most crimes follow clear patterns - criminals aren't unique and creative individuals. They're predictable.
This one isn't predictable. 4 young people, not all in one family, both genders, brutally murdered.
Honestly you have to throw your hands in the air and say this doesn't fit any pattern.
Some rando nutcase breaking in and lurking around isn't off the table as a possibility.
(I say that, having witnessed an investigation of a very brutal knife murder of a young woman jewelry store owner who was heavily into BDSM and necrophilia and group sex. Her BDSM community ties and activities were dragged through the media day after day, must be the cause. Nope. Turns out it was a random jewelry store thief, nothing personal whatsoever.)
At this point, it's looking less likely this will ever be solved, and less likely this crime fits the patterns others are thinking of.
I think that burglary has been ruled out. The police are calling the murders targeted and the coroner described the killer as being very angry and the murder scene, itself, to be very bloody with blood on the walls. The weapon used was a large, fixed blade knife which doesn't sound like something a burglar interested in stealing property would be carrying around.
Cops always go to the "most likely" profile and motive for a crime. Statistically, it is most likely that a person who knew these victims, had a major personal problem with these victims and wanted them dead would be the murderer.
But, you're right, there is nothing typical at all about these crimes. And the cops should not be taking a formulaic approach in trying to figure out who did this. As soon as I heard about these murders I thought that it had to have been a psycho like Danny Rolling or Ted Bundy.
"Moscow Police Department Chief James Frye, whose department is leading the investigation into the murders of four University of Idaho students, said during a press conference on Wednesday that investigators received a tip about another stabbing last year in Salem, Oregon."
"In the Oregon case, Travis and Jamilyn Juetten were awakened from their sleep around 3:00 a.m. on Aug. 13, 2021, to an unknown assailant attacking them with a knife. Travis fought off the attacker, but was pronounced dead at the scene."
I saw that but why over a year break in killings. Don't most serial killers strike a couple times a year. Or there are other unsolved cases by the same perp.
It could be a form of escalation killing four after killing or trying to kill couples. The victims in both cases looked fairly young which the killer might prefer. Some say it's burglary gone bad. Other than electronics what would college kids have although some might have drugs. Either way the burglar/thief usually just wants to get away and not make a point unless it's personal-will say being in college with parties all over including one that night it very well could be drug related.
If he was the target, and he was in the room closest to the point of entry, why would the killer bother going to the other bedrooms to kill people who weren't his target?
I think that burglary has been ruled out. The police are calling the murders targeted and the coroner described the killer as being very angry and the murder scene, itself, to be very bloody with blood on the walls. The weapon used was a large, fixed blade knife which doesn't sound like something a burglar interested in stealing property would be carrying around.
Cops always go to the "most likely" profile and motive for a crime. Statistically, it is most likely that a person who knew these victims, had a major personal problem with these victims and wanted them dead would be the murderer.
But, you're right, there is nothing typical at all about these crimes. And the cops should not be taking a formulaic approach in trying to figure out who did this. As soon as I heard about these murders I thought that it had to have been a psycho like Danny Rolling or Ted Bundy.
If there was blood on the walls, why would the ground-floor roommates think the people in the other bedrooms were only "passed out"? And why would they call in friends to help them assess the situation? Blood on the walls makes things pretty clear.
Maybe they didn't check out all 4 rooms, but only saw a room where there wasn't any blood? If so, why wouldn't they have looked at the other rooms, since none of their 4 housemates was up by noon?
If he was the target, and he was in the room closest to the point of entry, why would the killer bother going to the other bedrooms to kill people who weren't his target?
If there was blood on the walls, why would the ground-floor roommates think the people in the other bedrooms were only "passed out"? And why would they call in friends to help them assess the situation? Blood on the walls makes things pretty clear.
Maybe they didn't check out all 4 rooms, but only saw a room where there wasn't any blood? If so, why wouldn't they have looked at the other rooms, since none of their 4 housemates was up by noon?
I think that the one or both of the surviving roommates went up the stairs to check on their roommates and noticed blood and possibly saw a body from a distance. They freaked out, like most people would, and ran back downstairs. They called their friends who came over and determined that something really bad had happened.
The fact that a cop arrived to "clear the scene" before medics could enter indicates that there were some very alarming details given on that 911 call.
I think that the one or both of the surviving roommates went up the stairs to check on their roommates and noticed blood and possibly saw a body from a distance. They freaked out, like most people would, and ran back downstairs. They called their friends who came over and determined that something really bad had happened.
The fact that a cop arrived to "clear the scene" before medics could enter indicates that there were some very alarming details given on that 911 call.
OK, but if they saw blood, why wouldn't the 911 caller have said so? Why is the only version of the 911 call that's been released say the call was about someone being passed out? That gives the wrong impression, and as we've seen, gives rise to suspicions that the roommates might be the guilty parties. It was an odd way to characterize the 911 call.
OK, but if they saw blood, why wouldn't the 911 caller have said so? Why is the only version of the 911 call that's been released say the call was about someone being passed out? That gives the wrong impression, and as we've seen, gives rise to suspicions that the roommates might be the guilty parties. It was an odd way to characterize the 911 call.
Oh please.
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