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Old 11-25-2022, 06:30 PM
 
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I don't know about the family members, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of them were on something to help keep them calm. I know I'd have to be medicated if I were dealing with what they are.
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Old 11-25-2022, 06:33 PM
 
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GFM's have been setup for the families of each of the victims.
That's nice. I guess that's almost automatic these days. I was responding to this statement, though, which is specific to raising money for reward cash and started by family members themselves

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These days, even if one doesn't have money, they can easily create a crowd funding campaign to raise any necessary funds to help solve a case. These family members could have created a GoFundMe account and I am more than positive many people would have donated money to their campaign.

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Old 11-25-2022, 06:55 PM
 
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I'm not sure if they'll need to offer a reward in this case...police may believe they know who the killer is and are just waiting to get the forensic evidence tested, along with other evidence (like digital records).
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Old 11-25-2022, 07:19 PM
 
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These days, even if one doesn't have money, they can easily create a crowd funding campaign to raise any necessary funds to help solve a case. These family members could have created a GoFundMe account and I am more than positive many people would have donated money to their campaign.

I don't know why they can't release more information in regards to the call and the circumstances surrounding the roommates actions. They don't have to release the actual 9-1-1 calls but they certainly could do more to alleviate the concerns of the public. As it stands now, many university students have left the school out of fear due to the misinformation and lack of clear information coming out of the police department.
There may or may not be GoFundMe accounts established for these victims and their families. Probably in high profile cases like this it may be better not to go that route. The ones who establish the accounts and the recipients seem to be fair game for doxxing and unfounded theories.

The police have a lot to unwrap with this particular crime because the victims all had a rather substantial social circle and many of them had an online presence. If LE was looking at the "inner circle" first then they had substantial ground to cover because the "inner circle" of these kids was HUGE.

Suspects had to be ruled out, DNA had to be analyzed, etc. It was a known "party house" where kids gathered and had fun. They all attended social events and had an online presence.
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Old 11-25-2022, 07:38 PM
 
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I don't know about the family members, but it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of them were on something to help keep them calm. I know I'd have to be medicated if I were dealing with what they are.
I've wondered about that also. Last night I saw the entire Goncalves family on CNN being interviewed, and I don't know how they hold it together. So perhaps they are medicated. I almost think you would have to be, with something as tragic as these murders.
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Old 11-25-2022, 08:00 PM
 
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yada yada yada.....lol
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Old 11-26-2022, 02:25 AM
 
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And you're living proof of that. There's nothing simple about a garden-variety burglary ending in four household residents being killed in their beds.
Now you are just contradicting yourself. "Simple" and "garden-variety" are exact synonyms. So by definition any garden-variety burglary is a simple one.

You are definitely skipping the obvious explanations to move on to complicated theories. I'm surprised you don't like the cartel conspiracy theories.
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Old 11-26-2022, 03:10 AM
 
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I'm not sure if they'll need to offer a reward in this case...police may believe they know who the killer is and are just waiting to get the forensic evidence tested, along with other evidence (like digital records).
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There may or may not be GoFundMe accounts established for these victims and their families. Probably in high profile cases like this it may be better not to go that route. The ones who establish the accounts and the recipients seem to be fair game for doxxing and unfounded theories.

The police have a lot to unwrap with this particular crime because the victims all had a rather substantial social circle and many of them had an online presence. If LE was looking at the "inner circle" first then they had substantial ground to cover because the "inner circle" of these kids was HUGE.

Suspects had to be ruled out, DNA had to be analyzed, etc. It was a known "party house" where kids gathered and had fun. They all attended social events and had an online presence.
Myself and many others have suspected a while ago that the police already have a suspect they are focusing on. Or at least know the general pool of potential suspects to look at (social circles as mentioned). Now they are just looking to cross their i's and dot their t's before making any big announcements.

My biggest point is that the police in my opinion have not acted in any manner that suggests this was a random serial/mass killer that continues to pose a serious danger to the general public. Quite contrary, they have remained pretty mum all things considering, no sense of urgency or desperation to find such a killer. So all I'm saying is that based on these observations, the police most likely already have a suspect in mind.
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Old 11-26-2022, 03:45 AM
 
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A candlelight vigil will be held to honor the victims at 5 p.m. Wednesday on the lawn of the UI Administration Building in Moscow.


https://dnews.com/local/big-pieces-m...b00ed84e3.html


maybe the killer will show up at the vigil

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Old 11-26-2022, 03:54 AM
 
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The whole thing to me seems so shady and stinks to high heaven.

I get it that the police have no obligation to release any information, but all they have done so far is confused many with what they have revealed to the public.

Initially the cops said this was a targeted attack and the public was in no danger. They later changed their tune but I believe the initial assessment is correct in that this was a targeted attack.

Cops say there are no suspects so far and that key people involved in this incident are no longer considered suspects (the two roommates, the ex-boyfriend, the guy seen at the food truck, the person that drive them back home). It's already been 10 days, no suspects yet, but if that's the case why have they not been more pro-active in warning the general public about a possible serial/mass killer still on the loose? I've thought about this myself and it's also been mentioned on this thread, but why has there been no offer of a reward for information in this case? I have not seen anything about a reward from either the families, law enforcement, or any other entity including the school. Does this not strike anyone else as being strange?

Why have the cops been so mum about the behavior of the roommates which I find particularly odd. Again, I'm not referring to them possibly sleeping through the attack, that's a non-issue to me. I'm talking about why the roommate(s) first impulse was to call friends over and only call 9-1-1 later on around noon. And the weird way they describe one victim as being passed out. The scene had so much blood it started dripping through to the outside wall of the building and this is their reaction? Even when you consider people have different reactions to stress, I'm not buying that. Yeah I get it they have supposedly been ruled out as suspects but that doesn't mean anything to me at this point.

And you can't blame the Moscow cops for incompetence or the like as the FBI had already joined in the investigation days ago.
Actually it's been 12 days, 13 days now. I don't think I have ever seen a case go cold, faster than this one.

As far as warnings, I think the public has had more than enough warning. Reports are that fear is already spreading through the community and people are leaving town. Short of issuing a shelter in place order and telling people to stay in their homes with their doors locked and barricaded, I'm not sure what more could be done to warn people.

This is a very cold case. I think anybody who is expecting any rapid developments is going to be disappointed. I expect the investigators will let everything die down. Once they run out of tips to investigate, then they will have another news conference and maybe dangel a few carrots, to generate more leads.
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