Texas High School To Build New $35 Million Football Stadium Despite Incredibly Small Enrollment (Austin: transfer, taxes)

[Taub201]

"Make no mistake the most dominant school district in the state is hands down Southlake and it isn't close."
For 6A? In 5A, it was certainly Highland Park. Aledo and Lucas Lovejoy are very solid as well. So is Frisco ISD of course but success varies by high school. Some great at academics and others great at athletics. Not many are great across the board.

For sure, Carroll ISD is fabulous. No one else is even close? Is Southlake the best in 6A across the board including athletics and academics? Plano West seems the best per cap in academics, along with HP.

Back to Melissa: The Melissa Championship Center, a $21.3 million, 134,200-square-foot indoor practice facility on the Melissa Independent School District (ISD) high school campus.

[albert648]

Originally Posted by serger

Don't they usually pack them with other stuff though?

Even more reason to shoot them down.

[Cicnod]

Originally Posted by Taub201

"Make no mistake the most dominant school district in the state is hands down Southlake and it isn't close."
For 6A? In 5A, it was certainly Highland Park. Aledo and Lucas Lovejoy are very solid as well. So is Frisco ISD of course but success varies by high school. Some great at academics and others great at athletics. Not many are great across the board.

For sure, Carroll ISD is fabulous. No one else is even close? Is Southlake the best in 6A across the board including athletics and academics? Plano West seems the best per cap in academics, along with HP.

Back to Melissa: The Melissa Championship Center, a $21.3 million, 134,200-square-foot indoor practice facility on the Melissa Independent School District (ISD) high school campus.

Lol. Plano west isn’t close

[MurphyPl1]

Originally Posted by albert648

Because they waste $35 MILLION on football stadiums.

Schools have plenty of money. If you can afford a $35 million luxury that is at best ancillary to your primary purpose, then you are not underfunded and you don't need any more money.

Sigh. So much to go over with you.

1) The state caps the M&O tax rate that an ISD can approve for maintenance and operations. To go over that they need to go to the taxpayers in an election to get their approval.

2) The state takes money from property rich districts and gives it to property poor districts. Called recapture.

3) If your ISD does get an additional tax rate passed, it is also subject to recapture. Meaning that if you raise an additional $1 from your taxpayers, some percentage goes to another district.

4) Interest & Sinking (I&S) tax rate provides funds for payments on the debt that finances a district's facilities. This is not subject to recapture.

5) Bonds are approved by the voters. They decide if they want to raise their taxes for the I&S portion of their tax bill.

6) There are property rich districts in Texas and property poor ones. Dallas ISD is a property rich district and is subject to having tax revenue taken away and sent somewhere else.

[albert648]

Originally Posted by MurphyPl1

Sigh. So much to go over with you.

1) The state caps the M&O tax rate that an ISD can approve for maintenance and operations. To go over that they need to go to the taxpayers in an election to get their approval.

2) The state takes money from property rich districts and gives it to property poor districts. Called recapture.

3) If your ISD does get an additional tax rate passed, it is also subject to recapture. Meaning that if you raise an additional $1 from your taxpayers, some percentage goes to another district.

4) Interest & Sinking (I&S) tax rate provides funds for payments on the debt that finances a district's facilities. This is not subject to recapture.

5) Bonds are approved by the voters. They decide if they want to raise their taxes for the I&S portion of their tax bill.

6) There are property rich districts in Texas and property poor ones. Dallas ISD is a property rich district and is subject to having tax revenue taken away and sent somewhere else.

Expenditure is expenditure is expenditure.

If you can afford to spend money on a luxury, you don't need any more revenue. It's that simple.

[f4shionablecha0s]

Originally Posted by albert648

Expenditure is expenditure is expenditure.

If you can afford to spend money on a luxury, you don't need any more revenue. It's that simple.

Completely incorrect. In this instance, the voters approved the I&S tax levy to build a stadium. That revenue cannot be used to pay for anything else. I&S levies in general cannot ever be used to pay for ongoing operational costs such as teachers salaries. Ongoing operational costs can only be paid by state funding (determined via formula) or the M&O tax levy (capped by state law).

[Dopo]

Originally Posted by TheOverdog

I don't get why football stadiums get so much grief when Plano ISD's performing arts center is smaller, equally as expensive at $65m, far uglier (with a flat windowless unadorned concrete rectangle facing US75), and failing worse than Allen's football stadium did, as in it's never been able to open due to structural issues even though it is complete.


Stadiums compared to that are a great deal

So .... the fact that a theater was poorly built, makes it ok to spend that amount of money on a football stadium?


I'd like to see a comparison on the number of hours a high school theater is used in one school year compared to a football stadium.

[Taub201]

Originally Posted by Cicnod

Lol. Plano west isn’t close

https://schools.texastribune.org/dis...r-high-school/

Plano West has average SAT Score of 1268 and ACT of 27.1 with 46% taking an AP exam. 24% are economically disadvantaged.

Southlake has average SAT Score of 1265 and ACT of 27.2 with 51% taking an AP exam. 1% are economically disadvantaged.

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Melissa HS has average SAT Score of 1101 and ACT of 22.4 with 0% taking an AP exam. 15% are economically disadvantaged.

[TheOverdog]

I'd like to see a comparison on the number of hours a high school theater is used in one school year compared to a football stadium.

Well, when I was in high school I played football and did one-act play, and my expenditure of time in each was pretty equal, but given than Plano has been around for a long time, never had one [they rented time from Allen/Richardson], and built it no-where near any of their other schools says to me that the general time expenditure of a student in each is probably not that much, though perhaps more students in total participate in the arts vs spend time in the football stadium.

[Cicnod]

Originally Posted by Taub201

https://schools.texastribune.org/dis...r-high-school/

Plano West has average SAT Score of 1268 and ACT of 27.1 with 46% taking an AP exam. 24% are economically disadvantaged.

Southlake has average SAT Score of 1265 and ACT of 27.2 with 51% taking an AP exam. 1% are economically disadvantaged.

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Melissa HS has average SAT Score of 1101 and ACT of 22.4 with 0% taking an AP exam. 15% are economically disadvantaged.

Now go look at their athletics. It is a joke. I'll repeat. There are only 2 in DFW. Allen and Southlake.