Texas High School To Build New $35 Million Football Stadium Despite Incredibly Small Enrollment (Plano: houses, public schools)

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by Cicnod

Now go look at their athletics. It is a joke. I'll repeat. There are only 2 in DFW. Allen and Southlake.

For a balance of academics and athletics it’s Highland Park and Southlake by a mile. Plano West has the academics nailed down but not so much the sports.

[Cicnod]

Originally Posted by DFWGuy422

For a balance of academics and athletics it’s Highland Park and Southlake by a mile. Plano West has the academics nailed down but not so much the sports.

HP is not 6A or hasn't been until this coming year.. 5A is not relevant. Allen, not HP. Academically great and athletically great. HP academically great and average athletically. If they perform in 6A then they would move into the conversation.

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by Cicnod

HP is not 6A or hasn't been until this coming year.. 5A is not relevant. Allen, not HP. Academically great and athletically great. HP academically great and average athletically.

Good 5A teams like HP could easily compete with 80% of 6A teams

[Cicnod]

Originally Posted by DFWGuy422

Good 5A teams like HP could easily compete with 80% of 6A teams

I didn't talk about 80% of 6A teams. I talked about the cream of the crop. There are probably 5 overall. Southlake, Allen, Austin Westlake, Conroe, and Lake Travis. HP Academically is the cream of the crop but not athletically. Duncanville is the cream of the crop athletically but not academically.

Southlake played a very good HP team this past year in football. HP didn't belong on the field. It was a joke. I am very interested to see how they step up this next year.

I believe this is what Melissa is trying to do. They know new money moves into places like this which should drive academics like Lovejoy for example and they want to be an elite athletic program also.

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by Cicnod

I didn't talk about 80% of 6A teams. I talked about the cream of the crop. There are probably 5 overall. Southlake, Allen, Austin Westlake, Conroe, and Lake Travis. HP Academically is the cream of the crop but not athletically. Duncanville is the cream of the crop athletically but not academically.

We have different definitions of "cream of the crop." I would consider programs that consistently dominate 5A and could go head-to-head with 6A as cream of the crop.

[Taub201]

Allen has roughly 1330 students in its graduating class vs. 675 at Southlake Carroll and 550 at HPHS.

[MurphyPl1]

Originally Posted by Dopo

So .... the fact that a theater was poorly built, makes it ok to spend that amount of money on a football stadium?


I'd like to see a comparison on the number of hours a high school theater is used in one school year compared to a football stadium.

I can actually speak to this. I live near Kimbrough Stadium in Murphy (PISD). It has activity 3-4 nights a week and often on Saturday.

The theater at Plano East (and presumably West and Senior as well) was so booked up that they decided it actually made sense to add a new performance facility aside from the ones at the schools.

I pay these taxes and am thrilled that in addition to excellent education, they are also providing opportunities for athletes and performing arts. And Saturday Plano East's gym hosted the first ever District-Wide Sensational Sensory Ball for students in 9-12 grades.

[Cicnod]

Originally Posted by DFWGuy422

We have different definitions of "cream of the crop." I would consider programs that consistently dominate 5A and could go head-to-head with 6A as cream of the crop.

When HP plays a good team they get rolled. Their timed athletes (swimming, track, etc) wouldn't even make the team most of the time except the top 1 or 2. They can't compete as I have seen it numerous times when it comes to almost all sports. You will see in the fall and spring of next year when they have to go into 6A. Again they didn't even belong on the field this year in football when they played Southlake.

Originally Posted by Taub201

Allen has roughly 1330 students in its graduating class vs. 675 at Southlake Carroll and 550 at HPHS.

Which I always find amazing that Carroll can compete with Allen and HP can't even come close to competing with Carroll.

[TurtleCreek80]

Originally Posted by albert648

Expenditure is expenditure is expenditure.

If you can afford to spend money on a luxury, you don't need any more revenue. It's that simple.

But that’s NOT how the state has school finance set up. To the state, an expenditure is NOT an expenditure. They live in completely separate buckets of money.

Without bond elections, districts could never build any new schools, acquire new land or make significant repairs to very old schools. Frisco would still have 1 high school or whatever they had in 1990-ish when Robin Hood went into effect. And forget skyrocketing populations, home values, and tax rolls because without desirable schools….no one would have been flocking to the flat prairies 25 miles north of downtown over the last 25 years.

[DFWGuy422]

Originally Posted by Cicnod

Which I always find amazing that Carroll can compete with Allen and HP can't even come close to competing with Carroll.

Carroll's success always surprises me a bit given its size, as does Plano West's lack of success. Allen does benefit a lot from athletic transfers, and I would expect that Southlake doesn't simply because the home values are so high that the vast majority of people can't just move there if they want to play for a more competitive program.