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Old 04-11-2011, 03:12 PM
 
Location: The Port City is rising.
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Also found in vegetables.
so? That does not mean fruits are not an excellent source of all those things.
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Old 04-11-2011, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Wiesbaden, Germany
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Try different types of fruits. Melons and strawberries are some of the best and they have very low sugar levels. Back when I was battling diabetes, those were the recommendations. I never would've thought strawberries and watermelon would be low in sugar, but they are.. the two I avoid most are oranges and grapes, even though they are obviously not bad for you like cake and cookies, but they do have quite a bit of sugar when compared to other fruits.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:32 PM
 
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Try different types of fruits. Melons and strawberries are some of the best and they have very low sugar levels. Back when I was battling diabetes, those were the recommendations. I never would've thought strawberries and watermelon would be low in sugar, but they are.. the two I avoid most are oranges and grapes, even though they are obviously not bad for you like cake and cookies, but they do have quite a bit of sugar when compared to other fruits.
Dang I love grapes. Good thing they are out of season. I love watermelon and strawberries too. I guess I can adjust to that.

I'm not ready to give up on fruit as some are suggesting. But I guess it's good to keep moderation in mind.
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Old 04-12-2011, 08:37 PM
 
Location: NJ
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the bodybuilder guys i have seen tend to eat berries, i hear raspberries being mentioned here and there.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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1 serving a day isn't going to kill you. Eat fruit at every meal & have increased body fat, insulin & ultimately triglycerides--------- it's your life, do what you want! Frankly I can't stand that much fruit-- Yuck, so sweet!
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:33 AM
 
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1 serving a day isn't going to kill you. Eat fruit at every meal & have increased body fat, insulin & ultimately triglycerides--------- it's your life, do what you want! Frankly I can't stand that much fruit-- Yuck, so sweet!
I have fruit once or twice, or SOMETIMES three times a day since I have been on WW (december). In that period I have lost almost 20 pounds, lost 5 inches off my waist line. I still need to get back to the doc to see what its done to my blood measures.

Of course in that period I am pretty certain I have reduced my TOTAL carb intake. By eliminating almost all sugar (other than in fruits or veggies), and by mostly eliminating white starches. And probably slightly decreasing my consumption of whole grain strarches, though Im not certain.
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Yes, decrease carbs. There are several threads on here about the dangers of carbohydrates. Thanks for corroborating my testimony. I keep saying I didn't lose that much weight despite rigorous exercise for years on end till embarking on a low carb diet. It's like screaming in to a high wind trying to get through to people. You exercise, eat a lot of fruit & have gained weight............really?
Dangers? Really?

Should I remove all of the grains from my pantry in fear of a mass revolt?
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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I wouldn't worry about the weight gain at all, since all of your numbers look good. Unless you're not being honest with yourself about your diet, just keep doing what you're doing. Given your waist measurment and body fat percentage I'm betting that most of what you've gained is muscle.
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Old 04-16-2011, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque
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Fruit remains an overrated sugar laden food that should be consumed in conscious moderation. Continuing to overcomsume fruit leads to weight loss plateau and in the long run possible relapse and weight gain.

This is what French doctor Pierre Dukan has to say about fruit:

The opportunity now arises to talk about a food that most of you believe belongs to the 'as much as you want' category, because it is so naturally healthy.

This is partly true: fruit is a natural product and free from toxicity. It is also one of the best known sources of vitamin C and carotene.

But these advantages have been mythologized by two recent Western preoccupations: our longing to return to what is natural and our belief in the magical virutes of vitamins. However, just being natural does not automatically mean beneficial and vitamins are not quite the magical solution that many seem to think they are.

In fact, fruit is the only natural food that contains what diabetes specialist call rapid assimilation sugars. All other sources of sugar are man-made.

...........Fruit in its natural state was a precious food that for a long time mostly decorated the table, a colorful and satisfying reward for man. It is only through intensive farming and selection that we nowadays have the impression that fruit is easy to come by. As it is, most fruit with high sugar content, such as oranges, bananas and mangos, comes to us from faraway tropical regions and was only recently introduced into our regular diet, thanks to progress in transportation. This explains certain serious allergies, occasionally deadlyto some exotic fruits, such as peanuts or kiwi fruit.

In fact, fruit is not the prototype of healthy and natural food. Consumed in large quantities it can be dangerous, especially for diabetics and overweight people who tend to eat fruit outside of mealtimes.

Rationed to one fruit per day, you are now allowed to eat all fruit, except bananas, grapes, cherries, dried fruits, and nuts (walnuts, peanuts, almonds, pistachios, and cashews).

He goes on to list fruits in order of acceptability. Apples top the list, which is consumed as one piece a day. If you believe that eating a "variety" of fruits every day the rest of your life, you have bought in to the myth that fruit is healthy and "good for you" and will be sorely disappointed when your weight loss stalls or worse yet if you actually gain weight. Use common sense and limit fruit, period.

Can fruit make you fat? Natural sugar found in fruit is 'fuelling the nation's obesity epidemic' | Mail Online

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I have fruit once or twice, or SOMETIMES three times a day since I have been on WW (december). In that period I have lost almost 20 pounds, lost 5 inches off my waist line. I still need to get back to the doc to see what its done to my blood measures.

Of course in that period I am pretty certain I have reduced my TOTAL carb intake. By eliminating almost all sugar (other than in fruits or veggies), and by mostly eliminating white starches. And probably slightly decreasing my consumption of whole grain strarches, though Im not certain.
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Old 04-16-2011, 06:06 PM
 
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Dangers? Really?

Should I remove all of the grains from my pantry in fear of a mass revolt?
I do not know, if your Blood Sugar is under control and other health markers are good, probably not. But for many people, carbs as a significant part of their diet is problematic.

Have you checked how many Americans are Diabetic or Prediabetic??????
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